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[ 1) CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:10]

>> I CALL THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:00 P.M.

CAN WE ESTABLISH COURTROOM, PLEASE.

WE HAVE CORUM. CAN WE STAND UP PLEASE, JOIN US FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> EVERYONE: "I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE

AND INDIVISIBLE >> WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT

[ 2) PUBLIC COMMENTS]

TONIGHT FROM BRETT MOHLER. IF YOU WANT TO COME UP,.

ITEM PRINTED OUT FOR THE SECRETARY.

YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES, WHENEVER YOU ARE READY.

>> PROTECTING LIBERTY HILL WHILE SUPPORTING PUBLIC SAFETY.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FELLOW RESIDENTS. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AGAIN. AT THE LAST MEETING, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, I SHARED SOME CONCERNS REGARDING PLOT SAFETY-- FLOC SAFETY CAMERAS. SINCE THEN I HAVE CONTINUED RESEARCHING SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES, COURT DECISIONS, AND HOW COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE RESPONDING TO THESE SYSTEMS. THE MORE I HAVE LEARNED, THE MORE I REALIZE THIS DISCUSSION IS MORE THAN ONE COMPANY.

IT'S HOW LIBERTY HILL CHOOSES TO LOOK AT SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY.

I WANT TO BEGIN BY SAYING SOMETHING THAT I HOPE EVERYONE AGREES WITH, OUR-- I SUPPORT OUR POLICE OFFICERS.

I WANT THEM TO HAVE THE EFFECTIVE TOOLS TO INVESTIGATE SERIOUS CRIMES, RECOVER STOLEN VEHICLES AND KEEP OUR FAMILIES SAFE. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY AND CONSTITUTIONAL LIBERTY SHOULD NEVER BE OPPOSING VALUES. OUR NATION WAS FOUNDED ON THE PRINCIPLE THAT GOVERNMENT POWER SHOULD BE BALANCED BY ACCOUNTABILITY AND OVERSIGHT. THE FOURTH AMENDMENT EXISTS BECAUSE OUR FOUNDERS BELIEVED THAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT RESEARCH FIRST AND JUSTIFY LATER.

THE FIRST AMENDMENT NOT ONLY PROTECTS WHAT WE SAY, BUT OUR FREEDOM TO ASSOCIATE, ASSEMBLE AND PARTICIPATE IN CIVIC LIFE WITHOUT UNNECESSARY GOVERNMENT MONITORING.

TODAY TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS INFORMATION TO BE COLLECTED ON THOUSANDS OF LAW-ABIDING PEOPLE WITH LITTLE OR VERY LITTLE EFFORT. ACROSS THE COUNTRY, COURTS ARE INCREASINGLY EXAMINING WHERE THE CONSTITUTIONAL LIMITS SHOULD EXIST. SURVEILLANCE, LOCATION TRAFFIC AND MASS DATA COLLECTION. REGARDLESS OF WHERE THOSE QUESTIONS ULTIMATELY END, I BELIEVE LIBERTY HILL HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAD RATHER THAN REACT.

INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR OUR COURSE TO TELL US WHAT THE MINIMUM CONSTITUTIONAL STANDARD IS, WE CAN ESTABLISH OUR STANDARDS FOR TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY OURSELVES.

PETS WHAT I'M THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER ADOPTING, A LIBERTY HILL SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY POLICY.

SUCH POLICY WOULD REQUIRE TRANSPARENCY WHEN NEW SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES ARE PROPOSED AND AUDITS OF HOW THESE SYSTEMS ARE USED IN DATA RETENTION.

PUBLIC REPORTING ON SEARCHES AND DATA SHARING, ANNUAL REVIEWS TO DETERMINE IF THE TECHNOLOGY IS ACCOMPLISHING IT'S INTENDED PURPOSE, MEANINGFUL OVERSIGHT BEFORE SPENDING SURVEILLANCE CAPABILITIES. TECHNOLOGY WILL CONTINUE TO ADVANCE, TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY MAYBE ABOUT LICENSE PLATE READERS, TOMORROW'S TECHNOLOGY MAY INVOLVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, DEVICE TRACKING, OR TECHNOLOGIES THAT HAVE NOT EVEN REACHED OUR COMMUNITY YET. THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER

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TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OUR PRINCIPLES REMAIN THE SAME. I BELIEVE LIBERTY HILL CAN BECOME A MODEL FOR TEXAS BY DEMONSTRATING THAT PROTECTING CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND SUPPORTING LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. WE MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT

[3) CONSENT AGENDA]

AGENDA. DOES COUNCIL HAVE A MOTION OR

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I MOVED TO APPROVE THE

CONSENT AGENDA. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> MOTION IS MADE AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR.

[4) REGULAR AGENDA]

6-0, MOTION PASSES. MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR A, DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION APPROVING A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH GRIFFIN-SWINERTON IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,470,425.00 FOR OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE SERVICES RELATED TO THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT PROJECT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE SAME.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

TODAY IS AN EXCITING DAY. I'M ONLY GOING TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO YOU AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO PEOPLE WHO ARE MUCH SMARTER THAN ME TO GIVE YOU THE FULL DETAILS.

BUT I WANTED TO OPEN UP WITH TELLING THE STORY, BECAUSE I THINK THE STORY IS IMPORTANT AND IT PROVIDES CONTEXT.

WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A CONTRACT, A VERY SIMPLE CONTRACT. VERY SIMPLE TERMS. THERE IS A DOLLAR AMOUNT ATTACHED TO IT.

BUT WHAT IT DOES NOT TELL YOU IS THE STORY OF LIBERTY HILL AND WHY IT IS SIGNIFICANT. IN 2023, THERE WAS A BID THAT WAS AWARDED AT THE CITY OF LIBERTY HILL, AND THAT BID WAS AWARDED TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND THAT PROCESS WAS THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN. THAT MASTER PLAN WAS THE CULMINATION OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

IT INCLUDED CITY COUNCIL CITY LEADERSHIP TEAM, EDC, FUNDING FROM THE EDC, COMMUNITY SURVEYS, OUTREACH, A DOWNTOWN OPEN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO PROVIDE INPUT.

IT WAS A TRULY COLLABORATIVE PROCESS FOR PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER AND DEFINE WHAT THEY WANTED THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT TO LOOK LIKE FOR LIBERTY HILL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNOW THAT IS SO IMPORTANT IS THAT LIBERTY HILL HAS THIS UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY WITH A HISTORIC MAIN STREET.

IT HAS THIS UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND AND BE SOMETHING THAT IS SPECIFIC TO LIBERTY HILL AND I'M NOT GOING TO NAME OTHER CITIES, BUT NOT A SQUARE, NOT SOME OF THESE ELEMENTS WE SEE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. AND WE HAVE A HISTORIC MAIN STREET. IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF LIBERTY HILL DID NOT ABANDON, LIKE SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE.

SO WE TOOK THAT DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN THAT STARTED ALL THOSE YEARS AGO AND WE STARTED WORKING ON IT.

WE HAD CONVERSATIONS. WE'VE TAKEN ACTION, THIS COUNCIL HAS TAKEN ACTION AND PROACTIVE STEPS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE READY TO START A NEXT PHASE OF ENVISIONING THIS AND MOVING TOWARDS A VIBRANT DOWNTOWN. A PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN SPEND TIME WITH THEIR FAMILIES. A PLACE THAT GIVES PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND RESOURCES AND QUALITY TIME IN A COMMUNITY THAT THEY LOVE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF COMMUNITY, AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT MAKES LIBERTY HILL SPECIAL, BUT KEEPS IT VIBRANT AND SUSTA SUSTAINABLE, IS TO COMPLETE THE CIRCLE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS. RIGHT? YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT HOW PEOPLE LIKE TO MOVE TO PLACES THAT HAVE A TREMENDOUS SCHOOL DISTRICT.

LIBERTY HILL HAS SOMETHING BETTER THAN A TREMENDOUS SCHOOL DISTRICT. RIGHT? PEOPLE LIKE TO MOVE TO PLACES WHERE THEY CAN LET THEIR KIDS RUN FREE A LITTLE BIT. SPEND SOME TIME OUTSIDE.

QUALITY TIME. AND WE SEE THAT WITH SOME QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS HAPPENING IN AND AROUND LIBERTY HILL. BUT THE QUESTION BECOMES, AS THE TOLLWAY COMES THERE WITH IT'S EXPANSION, AS IT DOES IN EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY THAT A TOLLWAY HAS BEEN BUILT, WE KNOW THAT AREA IS GOING TO DEVELOP. AND WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENSURE THAT OUR DOWNTOWN REMAINS A SPECIAL PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GATHER, AND WE PROMOTE SMALL BUSINESSES, LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THE REALITY IS CITIES CAN DO MANY THINGS. SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME YEARS AGO, A CITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO WALK AND CHEW BUBBLEGUM AT THE SAME TIME. SO YOU'LL HEAR THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT SHOULD WE BE PRIORITIZING SEWER JUNCTION.

SHOULD WE BE PRIORITIZING DOWNTOWN? WHAT ABOUT THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WE NEED TO BUILD? THE REALITY IS THE ANSWER IS YES TO ALL THOSE THINGS.

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ENDIVE WON'T GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF HOW FUNDING WORKS.

THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER WORKSHOP. YOU ALREADY KNOW.

AND WE WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN THAT TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO KNOW. BUT AS WE PURSUE INFRASTRUCTURE, UPGRADES AND NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, AW PF, RESERVOIRS AND TANKS AND ALL THOSE THINGS. USING ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

WATER AND WASTEWATER REVENUE, WE HAVE TO BE PROVIDING THE AMENITIES THAT THE COMMUNITY, SINCE 2023, HAS BEGGED US TO DO WITH THOSE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. SO, TONIGHT, WHAT YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT IS PHASE ONE OF A DOWNTOWN DISTRICT PROJECT.

I'M GOING TO INCORPORATE MANY, MANY DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.

AND I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING THAT I STRESSED TO YOU IS THAT IT IS HIGHLY CONCEPTUAL. WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT TONIGHT. IT'S SO EASY FOR US TO SEE AN EXCITING PICTURE AND TO WANT THAT THING TOMORROW.

BUT THAT'S NOT HOW THINGS GET BUILT.

I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE TEAM THAT YOU WILL GET TO MEET TONIGHT. REPRESENTED BY AN INDIVIDUAL THAT IS HERE, AND TALK YOU THROUGH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF AN OWNERS REP AND WHAT THE PROPOSED FACING IS FOR A PROJECT OF THIS NATURE. I'M SURE THERE WILL BE LOTS OF QUESTIONS. BUT I'M HAPPY FOR YOU GUYS TO GET TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH THEM TONIGHT.

AND WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER,

MR. PRICHARD. >> ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I WILL BE BRIEFED BEFORE I TURNED OVER TO THE TEAM. ALL GIVE YOU A BIT ON THE DOWNTOWN FRAMEWORK. THOMAS KIND OF TOOK ALL OF MY FUNDER. AND THAT'S OKAY.

HE'S BETTER AT THIS THAN I AM. WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING TO THE DOWNTOWN FRAMEWORK, THE IMAGE THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR RIGHT IS THE GRAPHIC FOR THE ADOPTED DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2024. THIS DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIES-- SPECIFIC AREAS THAT THE CITY CAN INVEST IN, THE DOWNTOWN CORE, OR AREAS THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IN THAT AREA OR THE ENTIRE CITY. IT ALSO PROVIDES KEY TAKEAWAYS FOR WAYS TO REVITALIZE THE WHOLE DOWNTOWN.

SOME ARE SMALL STEPS, SUMMER LARGE STEPS.

SOME ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN CHANGE THINGS FOR REZONING, OR TO KEEP IT LOOKING LIKE DOWNTOWN. ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION IS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN THIS FROM THIS VERY CONCEPTUAL PLAN, SKY LEVEL VIEW OF WHERE THE BOXES ARE.

WHERE EVERYTHING IS, AND WE TOOK IT OVER TO THIS, YOU HAVE ALL SEEN THIS IMAGE BEFORE. THIS GETS INTO MORE OF A-- FURTHER DOWN, IT GETS TO WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE, IT'S A LITTLE THREE-DIMENSIONAL HERE, WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THE CORRIDOR, AND HOW WE OVERALL LOOK AT THE DOWNTOWN OR DISTRICT. LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'VE TAKEN THE DIRECTION WE RECEIVED AND SAID OKAY, LET'S TAKE THIS ANOTHER STEP FORWARD. A LOT OF LITTLE STEPS FORWARD TO TAKE YOU ALL AROUND THE WAY WITH THIS.

ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION, THIS CITY HAS NEVER DONE AN ORANGE-- OWNERS REP, OR AN OWNERS ADVISOR.

SO TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT IS, AN OWNERS REPRESENTATIVE WORKS AS AN EXTENSION OF CITY STAFF.

SO YOU DON'T GET AN OWNERS REPRESENTATIVE ON BOARD UNLESS YOU HAVE A LARGE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO BUILD, OR CONSTRUCT, OR DEVELOP. SO WHEN YOU BRING YOUR OWN EXPERT STOP ON, YOU BRING IN ONE EXPERT STOP FOR ONE PROJECT THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO WASTE SOMEBODY OF IN A FEW YEARS.

SO YOU BRING IN THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS THAT DO THIS WORK ALL THE TIME. WELL-- WHETHER THAT IS SYNTHESIZING ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THAT JUST DEPENDS ON THE LEVEL AND THE EXTENT. SO THIS TAKES IT FROM EVERYBODY COMING TO THE OWNERS, ME YOUR THOMAS, OR WHOEVER THE PROJECT MANAGER IS THAT IS A CITY STAFF MEMBER THAT HAS A DAY JOB, A NINE TO 548 TO FOUR. SEVEN TO FOUR.

AND IT TAKES IT FROM THIS, WHERE INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE OWNER, YOU HAVE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT TAKING IN THE ENTIRE THING. AND BEING ABLE TO FOLLOW WHAT IS IMPORTANT, WHAT'S ON FILE, HOW TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD, AND KEEPING THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD IN A CONSISTENT MANNER.

BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE ONLY THING THE CITY IS DOING.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO BE JUGGLING.

40 DIFFERENT HATS ALL IN ONE DAY SOMETIMES.

SO THE IDEA IS HOW DO YOU SUCCESSFULLY DELIVER A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE? BUT ALSO BRING OUT SOMEBODY THAT CAN WORK AS AN EXTENSION OF CITY STAFF.

SO THAT IS GENERALLY THE ROLE OF THE OWNERS REPRESENTATIVE, TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD AND TO BE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY, AND NOT NECESSARILY A CITY STAFF

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PERSON 40 HOURS A WEEK FOR THEM DOING THIS PROJECT.

THE OTHER BENEFIT TO AN OWNERS REP ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS, THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO A PARTNERSHIP LIKE THIS.

THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO RIGHT, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT EVERY CITY DOES ALL THE TIME.

SO YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU GET ALL YOUR ENTITLEMENTS CORRECTLY.

YOU HAVE TO GET A MASTER BUILDER ONBOARD, YOU HAVE TO PLAN YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND I'M SURE YOU ALL KNOW, CITIES ARE GOOD AT BUILDING ROADS, PIPELINES, WE DO PARK STUFF, VERY STANDARD INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS.

BUT WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING A PRIVATE DEVELOP MID PARTNERSHIP, YOU BRING SOMEBODY ON THAT DOES THIS ALL THE TIME.

BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED TO DO SOME OF THIS PLANNING AND ENTITLEMENT WORK, AND DO A FULL MARKET ANALYSIS THAT WE NEED TO DO IN THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT THE DOLLARS AND CENTS ANALYSIS IS DONE FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

SO THIS IS IN YOUR PACKET. THIS GOES OVER WHAT THIS SPACE IS. THIS IS THE PRELIMINARY PREDEVELOPMENT. THE EARLY PHASE OF THE PROJECT.

THERE WILL BE NO DIRT TURNING, WE WILL NOT BE DIGGING BIG HOLES IN THE GROUND TO PUT THE PIPES AND IS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

NOTHING LIKE THAT. BUT LIKE WITH ANY PROJECT, YOU HAVE TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL MOVING FORWARD. OTHERWISE YOU ARE CONSTANTLY STIFLING YOURSELF. A LOT OF THE WORK THAT WILL BE DONE AS PART OF THIS SCOPE IS THE PRELIMINARY WORK.

ALL THE EARLY WORK WE NEED TO DO.

WE HAVE TO DO A POD. WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE DESIGN, OR FOLLOW OUR MASTER PLAN DESIGN AND MAKE SURE WE ARE COMPLIANT WITH THAT. DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE ENTIRE FACILITY, BUT ALSO MAKE SURE WE BRING EVERYBODY ALONG WITH US. SO WE BRING THE COMMUNITY ALONG WITH US, COUNCIL ALONG WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. SO THERE IS A LOT OF THAT EARLY WORK THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT GUIDES THE ENTIRE PROJECT ALL THE WAY THROUGH, THAT HAS TO BE SET CORRECTLY IN THE BEGINNING TO MAKE SURE IT IS DONE CORRECTLY ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

SO I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE GRIFFIN-SWINERTON TEAM TO GIVE YOU SOME POINTS ABOUT WHO THEY ARE.

I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THAT TEAM, AND THEN I WILL COME BACK.

>> THANK YOU, BRANDON, AND THOMAS.

HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD EVENING. I AM THE EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF GRIFFIN-SWINERTON.

IT IS A REAL PLEASURE, A SINCERE PLEASURE, AND I'M EXCITED TO BE HER TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR FIRM AND SOME OF THE VISION THAT WE HAVE FOR GETTING THIS WORK STARTED.

SO, GRIFFIN-SWINERTON IS A DEVELOPMENT ART IN HER.

DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. WHAT YOU SEE ON THE PAGE HERE, THIS IS WHERE WE START AN INTRODUCTION OF WHO WE ARE AS A FIRM AND WHAT WE DO. YOU SEE SOME NUMBERS UP THERE, SOME PHOTOS DESCRIBING OUR SERVICES, WE HAVE A PLATFORM THAT IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH A LARGE VOLUME GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

LOTS OF DEVELOPMENT EXPERIMENT-- EXPERIENCE.

PROJECTS SIMILAR TO THIS IN OUR PIPELINE.

ANDAZ THE PAGE SHOWS, $530 MILLION OF OUR 1.2 BILLION-DOLLAR PIPELINE THAT IS IN TEXAS.

-- AND AS. BUT WHAT'S NOT SHOWN ON THE PAGES THAT WE LIVE AND BREED THIS TYPE OF WORK.

WE ARE A VALUES DRIVEN ORGANIZATION.

AND ONE THING THAT GETS-- WHEN I SWING MY LEGS OUT OF THE BED EVERY MORNING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GETS ME UP FOR THIS TYPE OF WORK CAN BE SUMMARIZED BY A QUOTE THAT I REALLY LIKE BY WINSTON CHURCHILL, WHEN HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ARCHITECTURE AND DEVELOPMENT POST-WORLD WAR II MAC.

AND HE SAID THAT FIRST WE SHAPE OUR BUILDINGS, AND THEREAFTER OUR BUILDINGS SHAPE OF-- SHAPE US.

WE SOMETIMES SAY FIRST WE SHAPE OUR COMMUNITIES, AND THEREAFTER OUR COMMUNITIES SHAPE US. THAT IS JUST A BEAUTIFUL PURPOSE FILLED STATEMENT, BECAUSE WHAT WE LOVE TO DO IS HELP CITIES CREATE A LEGACY FOR THEMSELVES. AND BY ESTABLISHING A VISION AND A PROCESS FOR BUILDING OUT THE DOWNTOWN OF LIBERTY HILL, THAT IS ORGANIC TO THE DNA OF LIBERTY HILL, THE PERSONALITIES, THE STAFF, THE VISITORS, THE RESIDENTS, THE LEADERSHIP.

THAT'S WHAT GETS US UP AT NIGHT AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO TIME AND TIME AGAIN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

SO WE ARE A FAMILY OF COMPANIES. THIS CHART STARTS TO BUILD ON AN INTRODUCTION OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES US SO SPECIAL, WHAT WE DO IS WE TAKE DEVELOPMENT MANAGEMENT, YOU CAN CALL BEING A OWNERS REP A

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DEVELOPMENT MANAGEMENT PARTNER, BUT WE TAKE DEVELOPMENT MANAGEMENT. OUR PARTNER IS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, A LARGE VOLUME GENERAL CONTRACTOR, AND WE HAVE A SUBSIDIARY COUNTRY-- COMPANY. IT'S A VERTICALLY INTEGRATED COMPANY THAT IS SUPER TO NUTS AND KNOWS HOW TO DO THE FRONT END CONCEPT PLANNING WORK, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE BUILD AND THE MAINTENANCE. SO IT IS A BENEFIT AT THIS STAGE FOR THE PROJECT IS THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT EVERYTHING.

WE ARE THINKING ABOUT HOW THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE ENGAGED.

WERE THINKING ABOUT THE DESIGN, WERE THINKING ABOUT THE FINANCING AND HOW TO PACKAGE IT TOGETHER.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE SO MANY PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXECUTING IN TEXAS. SO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT ANYTHING COSTS, WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT OUR FINGERTIPS.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN FACILITIES, WE HAVE THAT AT OUR FINGERTIPS.

AND WHAT'S MORE I THINK WE HAVE THE FINANCIAL BACKING TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER UPON OUR PROMISES. WE HAVE A PURPOSE STATEMENT WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. WE ARE REALLY SELLING PEACE OF MIND. AND BY WORKING WITH US, WHAT WE REALLY KNOW THAT WE NEED TO OFFER MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE IS PEACE OF MIND. THE REST OF THE CHART REALLY TALKS ABOUT WHO OUR TEAM IS. WE ASSEMBLED A TEAM OF DESIGN PARTNERS, ENGINEERS, FINANCIAL ADVISORS, MARKET LEADERS, FOLKS WHO DO THE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL GEOTECHNICAL SURVEYS. AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT IS THESE FIRMS IN OUR COLLECTIVE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE DEVELOPED TO WORK TOGETHER HAVE A 20 YEAR TRACK RECORD OF WORKING TOGETHER. SO WE HAVE ESTABLISHED PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY DISPUTES BETWEEN THE TEAM. SO ALL OUR ATTENTION IS DIRECTED TOWARDS THE CITY. WE HAVE A NATIONAL PRESENCE.

OVERALL, 20 OFFICES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

AND AS I SAID, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAVE IN TEXAS, WE HAVE, LIKE I SAID, $530 MILLION OF PROJECTS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY EXECUTING, INCLUDING MAJOR PROJECTS IN SALINA, ROW LET. WE HAVE EXPANDED THE MCKINNEY AIRPORT AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO TILDE COMMERCIAL TERMINAL.

THAT'S JUST A HIGH LEVEL SWATH OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE DO.

BUT I FIGURE WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THAT WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON IS THAT WE LISTEN. EVERY PROJECT THAT WE DO STARTS WITH LISTENING AND GETTING TO KNOW THE LEADERSHIP, THE COMMUNITY. WHO THE STAFF ARE, WHO THE RESIDENTS ARE, DOWN TO THE VISITORS ARE, BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT SUCCESS REALLY STARTS WITH DOING SOMETHING THAT IS AUTHENTIC TO ANY COMMUNITY. AND WE ARE NOT-- WE DON'T HAVE A FORMULA WHERE IT IS A COOKIE-CUTTER PROCESS THAT REPLICATES ONE PROJECT SOLUTION TO THE OTHER.

EVERYTHING IS CUSTOMIZED AND UNIQUE TO A PARTICULAR LOCATION.

SO WE DID AS PART OF THIS WORK START TO PRODUCE SOME VISUALS OF WHAT IN OUR MINDS EYE SUCCESS COULD LOOK LIKE.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF A PROCESS.

THIS IS NOT A PROPOSAL FOR WHAT IS INTENDED TO GET BUILT.

BUT WE DO THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO START TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE. AND TRYING TO TRANSLATE WHAT WE HAVE HEARD THUS FAR IN TO SOMETHING THAT WE THINK TRANSLATES TO WHAT WE HAVE HEARD IS DESIRED HERE.

SO HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF THIS STARTS TO LAY HER IN A LOT OF OUR THOUGHT PROCESSES FOR WHAT A SUCCESSFUL DOWNTOWN CORE LOOKS LIKE. ANY MUNICIPAL COMPLEX IS PART OF THE COMMUNITY. IT OPENS UP TO A CENTRAL GRAIN AND GATHERING SPACE. YOU HAVE CONNECTIONS WITH RETAIL AND PLACES FOR COMMUNITY TO GATHER.

FOR CHILDREN TO PLAY. FOR PARENTS AND SENIORS TO RATHER. AND THIS IS A GOOD DEPICTION OF A-- WHAT A POTENTIAL JULY 4TH CELEBRATION MIGHT ULTIMATELY LOOK LIKE, WITH FOOD TRUCKS AND ESTABLISHED VENDORS, AND FOOD BEVERAGE-- FOOD AND BEVERAGE BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE WHOLE FABRIC OF THIS SORT OF BEATING HEART OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND WE PROVIDE A COUPLE OTHER IMAGES.

JUST AT HUMAN SCALE. SHOWING WHAT THE EXPERIENCE COULD LOOK LIKE AND BE LIKE FROM A VARIETY OF TIMES.

AND THE LAST IS TO SHOW HOW KIND OF A CENTRAL PROMENADE, OR

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SPYING OF THIS CIVIC GATHERING SPACE OPENS UP TO THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX. AND THE MUNICIPAL COMPLEX IS KIND OF POROUS, PERMEABLE IN TO THE HEARTBEAT OF THE URBAN SQUARE. SO I THINK THAT IS IT.

AND WE DID SAY WE WOULD TALK A BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS, AND WHAT BRANDON SAYS IS THAT WE START WITH CONCEPT, WE START WITH LISTENING, AND AT EACH STEP WE RETURN AND SAY HOW WE HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB. WE-- IF YOU LIKE WHAT WE HAVE DONE YOU CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP.

IF YOU DON'T, YOU CAN TAKE THE WORK PRODUCT WE HAVE AND GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. AND WE BUILD OUR BUSINESS OFF CLIENT SATISFACTION, CLIENT DELIGHT.

SO WE WILL TAKE THAT BET. I THINK THAT IS IT.

>> WITH ALL OF THAT SAID, COUNCIL, OUR RECOMMENDATION WILL BE TO AWARD THIS REPRESENTATIVE AGREEMENT TO GRIFFIN-SWINERTON.

JUST TO KEEP IN MIND, I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS ON HERE TOO PICK UP THE COMPLETION OF THE FIRST PHASE OF THE PROJECT WE WOULD BRING BACK EITHER THE NEXT PHASE, BUT ALSO SOME OTHERS TO FUND THE CITY PORTION OF THIS. THAT CAN GO OUT IN A MULTITUDE OF WAYS. WHETHER THAT'S A ELECTION TO PROVIDE VOTERS A VOICE IN THIS, AND IF THEY WANT TO ASK FOR A PORTION OF IT AS WELL, DEPENDING ON HOW THIS ALL SHAKES UP IN THIS COMMERCIAL REDEVELOP MIDCAP IS EARLY-STAGE.

SO I ALSO PROVIDED AT THE BOTTOM THERE, YOU WILL SEE MY VERY SIMPLE SCHEDULE HERE. THIS IS ALSO IN THE AGENDA PACKET. JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF-- CONTEXT OF HOW WE ARE HERE. WE ARE IN JULY 2026.

VERY PRELIMINARY, LOTS OF THINGS CAN CHANGE.

A LOT OF THINGS CAN CHANGE ALONG THE WAY, BUT IT GIVES A FRAMEWORK AND AN IDEA. WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU ALL HOPEFULLY ON SCHEDULE IN FEBRUARY 2027 TO TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS. IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, HOW TO MOVE FORWARD, AND PROVIDE THAT PATH FORWARD FOR YOU ALL.

THAT WOULD LEAD TO A PREDEVELOPMENT PHASE OF 12 MONTHS AND GET TO A GROUNDBREAKING IN ROUGHLY-- A ROUGHLY 20 MONTH CONSTRUCTION WINDOW TO HAVE A GRAND OPENING IN 2029. VERY ROUGH NUMBERS.

A LOT OF THINGS CAN CHANGE IN THREE YEARS.

BUT AT LEAST WE CAN NOW COMMUNICATE, AND SEE THINGS MOVE AND SEE HOW IT DEVELOPS FROM THERE.

WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSS AS MUCH AS

HE WOULD ALL LIKE TO. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE RECITATION-- FOR THE PRESENTATION.

CITIES ARE A LEGACY, AND I HOPE YOU DON'T BRING A COOKIE-CUTTER SOLUTION. FROM EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY, WE KNOW WE ARE NOT A SQUARE.

WE ARE A STREET. WE HAVE TO BE SUPER CREATIVE.

AND PEOPLE CAN THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND REALLY GET INTO THE HEAD OF WHO WE ARE. TO KEEP THAT SMALL TOWN BIGHEAD HEART-- BIG HEART FEEL. ONE THING I WILL NEVER FORGET HIS LAST YEARS VETERANS PARK SPECIAL.

WE HAVE HAD THIS EVERY YEAR. A GENTLEMAN HAD BEEN COMING EVERY YEAR. HE CAME UP TO ME AND SAID, WHATEVER YOU ARE ALL DOING, KEEP DOING IT.

BECAUSE I KNOW THE CROWD GETS BIGGER, BUT IT STILL FEELS LIKE IT'S THE SAME SMALL TOWN. AND THAT MEANT A LOT TO ME, AND I KNOW IT DOES TO THIS COUNCIL TOO.

SO HEARING THAT, IT SAYS A LOT. IS THE PRICE SOMETHING THAT I WAS LIKE-- OH, BOY,-- BUT, WITH ANYTHING IN LIFE, WHEN YOU WANT TO INVEST IN A LEGACY, AND YOU WANT TO INVEST IN THE FUTURE OF WHAT MY CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN COULD EXPERIENCE, FUTURE GENERATIONS, IT IS WORTH IT.

AND TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I AM EXCITED BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN WANTING, AND I DID FEEL THAT AS THE OTHER QUARTERS ARE GROWING ON THEIR OWN WITH THOSE BIG BOXES, WE ARE STILL PAYING ATTENTION TO DOWNTOWN, WE ARE STILL PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL, THOSE SMALL-TOWN BUSINESSES.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GOING TO HELP SUPPORT.

CONTINUING TO MAKE THAT FOCUS. I AM EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I'M EXCITED TO SEE YOU. AS THINGS CHANGE, WE WILL CHANGE WITH IT AND PIVOT AS NEEDED. BUT I APPRECIATE STAFF, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TONIGHT, AND I AM EXCITED FOR THE FUTURE.

>> I'D LIKE TO SAY, IS SOMEBODY WHO IS BORN AND RAISED, I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS. I KNOW YOU HAVE ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE HISTORY OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND WE HAVE ALSO SEEN OTHER AREAS AROUND HERE THAT DID AWAY WITH THEIR DOWNTOWN AND CAN NEVER GET IT BACK.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED THAT WE ARE PRESERVING THE HISTORY OF THIS TOWN, AND WE ARE GOING TO CAPITALIZE ON IT AND BRING IT IN TO A NEW AGE. AND TO SEE THE OPEN SPACE AND

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ENGAGEMENT. I OFTEN TELL PEOPLE THAT THAT SCULPTURE FESTIVAL THAT HAPPENED 50 YEARS AGO WAS NOT ABOUT THE SCULPTURE THAT GOT PRODUCED. IT WAS ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER IN THAT AREA DEPICTED AND SHOWING THAT THEY ARE A COMMUNITY WHO HOUSED AND FED PEOPLE.

WHO CAME TOGETHER AND CELEBRATED PEOPLE.

SO I'M EXCITED TO GET BACK TO THOSE ROUTES-- THOSE ROUTES MAC.

>> I'M GOING TO CALL BACK TO SOMETHING THE CITY MANAGER SAID AS WELL. FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THAT'S VERY EXCITING TO SEE IT COME TO LIFE. EARLIER OUR CITY MANAGER WAS PRESENTING AND TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH WITH DOWNTOWN. THERE WAS AN ARTICLE THAT WAS PUT OUT RECENTLY ABOUT SOME INDEPENDENT CHATTER ONLINE REGARDING SPENDING MONEY DOWNTOWN, WHY NOT SPEND IT ON INFRASTRUCTURE. AND I SHOULD POINT OUT, THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE BUDGETS. IT'S NOT EITHER OR, IT'S BOTH/END. BOTH CAN HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, AS WE

ARE DISCUSSING THIS. >> IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT?

>> THANK YOU, MR. CRAWFORD FOR THE PRESENTATION.

STATE MANAGER AND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE REALLY WHERE WE ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY, LIKE WE DID WITH THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN, LIKE WE ARE DOING WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THE UDC, THIS TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT-- IS THIS A RESULT OF THAT TYPE OF ENGAGEMENT? SO THE MORE THAT YOU ENGAGE WITH US, THE MORE YOU ENGAGE WITH THE CITY AND PUT YOUR INPUT IN, WE LISTEN, DESPITE SOMETIMES YOUR COMMENTS THAT WE DON'T CARE, WE DO CARE.

THIS HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.

WE ARE NOT APPEAR FOR US, WE ARE APPEAR FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY. THE MORE YOU ENGAGE THE BETTER.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND I KNOW YOU SAID WE CAN'T HAVE IT TOMORROW. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW. MAYBE IT IS TOO SOON TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS. PROBABLY TOO SOON.

BUT I'M ASSUMING ONE OF THE UTILITIES IN PARKING, AND THE STRAITS OF THE AREA ARE PART OF THIS PROCESS?

>> IT IS PART OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN.

THE PLANNING OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR WATER, WASTEWATER.

YOU KIND OF PLAN OUT THE FACILITY.

HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE THERE. HOW MANY DO YOU EXPECT.

YOU HAVE TO PLAN THAT OUT. WHICH TELLS YOU YOUR TRAFFIC COUNT. WHAT YOU NEED FOR TRAFFIC.

THERE IS A LOT OF RING ABLE TO QUANTIFY THAT IN A MEANINGFUL WAY TO MAKE THOSE CALLS, THOSE DECISIONS.

SO THAT'S A LOT OF THIS EARLY WORK.

YOU HAVE TO FIND THE WORK. RIGHT?

>> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL. JUST ADDING ON TO THAT.

THIS COMMUNITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO COMMUNITY-- COMMUNICATE TO THEIR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE.

AND WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THAT. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT, THIS COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS.

IT TAKES A COUNCIL, ALTHOUGH WE MAY DISAGREE SOMETIMES ON HOW TO GET THERE, WE ARE ALL WANTING THE SAME THING, AND WE LEARN TO COMMUNICATE, WE LEARN TO WORK TOGETHER.

AND I THINK THAT IS VITAL IN THIS ROLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THIS COMMUNITY, AND FOR YOUR WORK AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS.

WITH THAT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> I MOVED TO APPROVE THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH GRIFFIN-SWINERTON, WITH THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT PROJECT, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO

EXECUTE THE SAME. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR? 6-0.

MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM FOUR BE.

DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR THE CITY PARK PARKING LOT EXPANSION IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,481,119.00 TO PATIN CONSTRUCTION AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE SAME. IT WILL BE PRESENTED BY RICHARD,

WHO IS OUR PARKS DIRECTOR? >> PARKS, RECREATION AND

FACILITIES. >> THERE YOU HAVE IT.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING.

TODAY IS A IMPORTANT DAY FOR PARKS AND RECREATION.

I AM EXCITED TO BRING THIS ITEM FORWARD.

IT REPRESENTS A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT IN THE CITY PARK.

IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO PREPARE FOR THE GRANT THAT WE WANT.

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THE 750,000 TO PUT-- I WANT TO SAY AN AMPHITHEATER, BUT IT WILL TIE INTO THE PERFORMANCE AREA THAT WE WILL BE ADDING IN THE COMING YEAR AS WELL. SO THE PARKING LOT WAS SUPPOSED TO START IN 2025. DESPITE SOME DELAYS, WE MADE IT THROUGH EVERYTHING AND WE ARE MOVING TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION.

THE PROJECT WILL REPLACE EXISTING GRAVEL WITH PERMANENT CONCRETE. IT WILL BE BETTER LONG-TERM, AND LOWER MAINTENANCE. A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, IN 2023, COUNCIL RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023 ARE 25, UPDATED THE PARK MASTER PLAN AND IT'S PRIORITIES.

IN 2024, THE PARK MASTER PLAN SUPPORTED THE CITIES TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE GRANT APPLICATION. AND THE FOCUS WAS THE CITY PARKING LOT EXPANSION TO IMPROVE ACCESS, SAFETY AND PARKING CAPACITY. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT WAS PLANNED FOR 2025. IT IS NOW GOING TO BEGIN IN 2026. THE THINGS THAT WILL BE ADDED WILL BE 230 PARKING SPOTS. AS YOU CAN SEE, ORIGINALLY IT WAS JUST THE CENTER PORTION. BUT WE'VE ADDED TWO WINGS TO THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE SAFER AND MORE ACCESSIBLE WITH SIDEWALKS, RAMPS AND TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS.

THERE WILL BE PARKING LOT LIGHTING, STORM WATER IMPROVEMENTS AND LANDSCAPE ANTIROTATION, WITH NEW TREES, NATIVE IRRIGATION AND SITE RESTORATION.

WE ARE WANTING TO PATENT CONSTRUCTION FOR THE BASE BID AND THE ALTERNATE BID. AND WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE FUNDED THROUGH PARKLAND IN THE LOOP PREMEDICATION AND ON RESERVES.

AT THIS POINT I WANTED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION-- OR AM I SKIPPING QUESTIONS? I APOLOGIZE.

THE PROJECT IS PROPOSED TO BE FUNDED THROUGH THE PARK IN THE LOOP GENERAL FUND RESERVE. WE WILL WORK WITH THE EDC TO EVALUATE ANY FUNDS THAT CAN HELP AND WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO PATIN CONSTRUCTIO CONSTRUCTION IN THE $2,481,119. AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS

YOU MIGHT HAVE. >> COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? LADIES FIRST.

>> I AM ALL FOR THIS PARKING LOT.

VERY MUCH SO. I THINK MY CONCERN IS, AND IT'S A QUESTION I ASKED, HOW MUCH WAS THIS ORIGINAL PROJECT BUDGETED FOR? NOT WHAT WE HAVE IN TERMS OF THE FACTS AVAILABLE, BUT HOW MUCH WAS THIS PROJECT ORIGINALLY BUDGETED FOR WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT IN 2025, UNDERSTANDING THAT PRICES HAVE INCREASED IN THE LAST YEAR.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET AMOUNT FOR THIS PROJECT.

>> $1,300,009. >> I THINK THAT'S PART OF MY CONCERN. THE SECOND PART OF MY CONCERN IS-- AGAIN, ALL FOR THE PARKING LOT.

I LOVE TREES. IN A DAY WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO DO WATER CONSERVATION, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE IRRIGATION IS COMING OFF OF A CITY WELL OUT THERE.

IT'S IN OUR WATER SYSTEM. BUT AT A TIME OF TRYING TO CONSERVE WATER, BECAUSE WE HAVE A STRAW IN THE GROUND AFFECTING OTHER PEOPLE'S WATER AS WELL, I AM A BIT CONCERNED ABOUT-- I DON'T REMEMBER DISCUSSING USING THE TREE MITIGATION FUNDS.

BECAUSE THE TREE MITIGATION FUNDS ARE TO THE TUNE OF $660,000. DOES THAT MEAN THIS 2.4 MILLION CONTAINS LINE ITEMS RELATED TO TREES AND IRRIGATION? THAT $660,000? WAS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL THING?

>> TO GO BACKWARDS, I WAS NOT HERE IN 2025.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. SORRY.

>> BUT I THINK THERE WAS A CONSIDERATION WITH IT.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN, WHEN I CAME ON BOARD IT WAS ALWAYS EXPLAINED TO

ME THAT THE TWO WERE TOGETHER. >> MY MEMORY ISN'T THERE BUT IT COULD BE. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT USING GENERAL FUND RESEARCH. BECAUSE I APPRECIATE THAT THEY ARE SEPARATE ON THINGS BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT TAPPING INTO THE

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GENERAL FUND RESERVES. AND THE FACT THAT WERE LOOKING AT A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO ACHIEVE IT AT THIS POINT.

AND I THINK ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS IS IT POSSIBLE TO PROTECT THE PARKING LOT WITHOUT DOING SOME OF THIS OTHER STUFF DRIVING THE COST OF IT UP? THAT WE COULD DELAY LATER? I LOVE TREES, BUT IS IT THE RIGHT TIME TO DO IT?

>> I THINK IT IS THE RIGHT TIME. I THINK THE MESSAGE SENT, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE ARE DOING THE PARK MASTER PLAN, ONE OF THE REQUESTS FROM THESE SURVEYS HAS BEEN ASKING FOR MORE SPACE, PARKING AND TREES. MORE ACCESS TO COMMUNITY EVENTS.

SO I DO THINK THAT IT DOES FIT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR RIGHT

NOW. >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE VISION, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ALL SEE WHERE THE TREES ARE GOING. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHERE THE TREES

ARE GOING? >> I CAN.

>> IS IT AROUND THE PARKING LOT? AROUND THE TRAIL? LIKE I SAID, I LOVE TREES. BUT I'M WORRIED ABOUT CONSERVATION. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> THERE IT IS. >> I WANT TO MAKE TWO NOTES.

IT'S AROUND THE PARKING LOT, AND AROUND THE TREES AS WELL.

THESE ARE NEW TREES THAT YOU HAVE TO IRRIGATE TO KEEP ALIVE, BUT IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THEY ARE NATIVES, THEY DON'T REQUIRE THE SAME TYPE OF WATER VOLUME AS OTHER TREES.

BUT IT ALSO SHOULD BE NOTED THAT EVEN IF-- TREE MITIGATION COVERS ALL THE TREE COST. GENERAL FUND, THE ADDITIONAL GENERAL FUND IS NOT COVERING THE TREES, IT'S COVERING THE PARKING LOT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> YES. >> SO IF YOU REMOVE THE TREES--

>> I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT USING THE RESERVES.

I WAS HOPING IT WAS NOT GOING TO BE MORE TREE RELATED.

>> THE TREE MITIGATION-- >> IF WE TAKE THE TREES OUT IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT US SOMETHING TO USE THE RESERVE.

>> BUT AROUND THE PARKING LOT, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO DO TREES AROUND SOME OF THOSE TREE ISLANDS.

AND ALSO AROUND THE TRAIL AS WELL.

IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, AND THEY ARE NOT ALL 20-FOOT TREES

OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >> OUR APOLOGIES FOR THE DISRUPTION. REAL QUICK, COUNCILMEMBER,--'S LAST NAME-- COUNCILOR HELBING, HE HAS A FAMILY EMERGENCY.

SO HE HAD TO LEAVE ABRUPTLY. JUST A QUICK RECAP OF WHAT HAPPENED THERE. TREES ARE PART OF AN IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE AREA. IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE TRAIL, ALSO A PARKING LOT. NOT JUST AROUND THE PARKING LOT.

IT'S KIND OF BOTH. >> CORRECT.

AND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT QUITE FULL-BLOWN.

WE SHOULD MAKE SURE IT'S NOT FULL-BLOWN.

THE-- THESE STREETS. >> JUST A GENERAL COMMENT, I LIKE THE IDEA OF CONCRETE, LONG-TERM, MAINTENANCE IS CHEAPER. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POOL, IS THAT CONCRETE ON THE RIGHT SIDE? IT IS. SO THAT IS NOT CHANGING.

WE ARE JUST EXPANDING THE GRAVEL ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE STREET?

>> THESE ARE NOT CURRENTLY GRAVEL, NEXT TO THE SOCCER FIELD. TO THE NORTH'S GRASS, AND PEOPLE PARKED THERE. TO THE FAR RIGHT IS GRAVEL AND PARKING LOT. THAT WILL BE REPLACED WITH

CONCRETE. >> THANK YOU.

I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. >> OKAY.

THE PRICE OF CONCRETE WILL KEEP GOING UP.

SO... DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> I MOVED TO APPROVE ITEM FOUR

BE AS PRESENTED. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? 5-0. MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU. GREAT PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM FOUR SEAM.

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DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH PROTA UTILITY CONTRACTORS IN THE AMOUNT OF $667,216.00 FOR THE REPAIR OF A DAMAGED WASTEWATER LINE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SOUTH SAN GABRIEL PHASE I SEWER LINE PROJECT, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE SAME.

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS NEAR THE RECENTLY-- THIS IS HOPEFULLY A GEOGRAPHIC THING.

THIS IS THE-- AND EXISTING RECENTLY OPENED FREEDOM RIVER PARKWAY. AS YOU ARE ALL VERY WELL AWARE, THERE IS A BIG DEVASTATING FLOOD IN THIS AREA ABOUT A YEAR AGO TODAY. BECAUSE OF THAT THIS SECTION OF PIPELINE THAT WAS PUT IN ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF THE ACTUAL GROUND. SO OUT OF THE GROUND.

IT WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT. IT WAS NOT A FUN TIME.

BUT THERE WAS NO WASTEWATER SPILL OR FLOOD GOING INTO IT CURRENTLY. SO IT'S NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL CATASTROPHE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE NOTICED THIS AND WE WERE TRYING TO WORK TO SEE WHAT THE ISSUE WAS, WHY DID IT FLOAT, WHY DID IT COME OUT OF THE GROUND.

THAT NORMALLY DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH THESE PIPELINES.

THAT SEEMS CRAZY. WE ALSO WERE LIKE WHAT IS THE ISSUE? WELL, THE ISSUE WAS THAT WHERE THAT IS CURRENTLY LOCATED, IT'S AN AREA THAT GETS WASHED AWAY.

THERE WAS A NUMBER OF SCOUR ANALYSIS DONE, WHICH IS A LONG STORY THAT I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT AT SOME POINT, BUT THERE WAS NO SCOUR ANALYSIS, SO IT'S CURRENTLY AN AREA WHERE RAINWATER WILL JUST GO THROUGH. IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH RAINWATER IT WILL SCOUR THE EARTH AROUND IT. SO IT SCOURS THE EARTH DURING THE JULY FLOODS, THERE IS NO WASTEWATER KEEPING IT DOWN ON THE GROUND. SO THE BIG PIPE SECTION ACTUALLY FLOATED UP. SO WE THOUGHT HOW CAN WE GET THIS PIPE RELOCATED. THERE IS A WAY TO FIX THAT, WHEREAS INSTEAD OF DOING A SCOUR ANALYSIS YOU CAN FIX A PIPE IN THE GROUND. OR MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE WORKED WITH THE LANDOWNER TO FIND THE BEST WAY FORWARD.

LESS IMPACTFUL TO THEM. WE HAD TWO OPTIONS.

EITHER PUT IT IN THE ORIGINAL LOCATION, OR THE SECOND POINT, TRYING TO SEE IF WE COULD RELOCATE IT OUT OF THE EASEMENT.

WE CAN DO A SWAP. CAN WE MOVE THE PIPE OVER TO HERE TO WHERE IT WON'T FLOOD. SO THAT WAS A LONG BACK-AND-FORTH. THIS HAPPENED LAST YEAR.

A LOT OF BACK-AND-FORTH WITH HOW WE WANT TO DO THAT.

BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE COMPLETE THE REPAIR.

SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT THIS IN-- THIS LINE CONNECTS TO THE SAME INTERCEPTOR PHASE TWO AND THREE THAT GOES UP TO 629 ON THE CLOSE TO LIBERTY HILL HIGH SCHOOL.

SO IT HAS TO CONNECT TO THIS LINE.

SO MAYBE YOU PUT THE LINE BACK IN THE GROUND SO THAT THEY HAVE A FINAL DETERMINATION POINT TO CONSTRUCT THAT LINE.

WE WENT BACK AND FORTH ON THE ALIGNMENT.

THIS IS THE PICTURE OF THE WHOLE AREA.

YOU SEE ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE, THE PARKWAY, THE ORIGINAL ROUTE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT POND IS RIGHT THERE.

THAT POND OVERFLOWS AND SCOURS THE WHOLE AREA WHICH GOES DOWN AND FOLLOWS THE FLOOD PLANE, AS I'M SURE YOU ARE ALL AWARE.

SO WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING A PROPOSED ROUTE THAT YOU COULD SEE THAT IS KIND OF A STRAIGHT LINE TO HOPEFULLY SEE IF WE COULD MAKE THAT WORK INSTEAD TO MINIMIZE WHAT WE CAN DO.

GIVEN THE BACK AND FORTH, IT WAS KIND OF A LONG PROCESS, AND WE WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING BY THE LANDOWNER TO MAKE IT WHOLE.

BUT WE WILL GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL ROUTE, INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS PROBLEM HAPPENING ALL OVER AGAIN, WE ARE GOING TO RUN THROUGH THE CHANNEL. WHICH IS WHAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO YOU RUN IT THROUGH THE CHANNEL WITH A SERIES OF CONCRETE ENCASEMENTS, AND THEN YOU PUT UP SOME ROCKS AND THAT INSURERS WERE NOT SCOURING THE GROUND ANYMORE. SO THE PROPOSAL WE HAVE THIS EVENING, WE ARE WORKING TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE SOMETHING WORK AND DO THIS REPAIR. REPAIR WORK IS KIND OF A DIFFERENT GAME FALL FILE SMALL PROJECTS.

SO WE REACHED OUT TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD DO.

THEY ARE A GOOD CONTRACTOR. I'VE WORKED WITH THEM FOR QUITE SOME TIME. ENDED SOMETHING THEY ARE WILLING TO DO. SO WE WORKED WITH THEM TO GET IT MOVING FORWARD. SO WE WANT TO PROVE THIS CONTRACT TO MAKE THIS REPAIR. WE SHOULD ALSO NOTE THAT THIS IS FUNDED OUT OF SEWER FUND RESERVES, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO GO THROUGH OUR INSURANCE CARRIER TO SEE WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE HOW FILE REIMBURSEMENT WITHIN INSURANCE CLAIM.

WE ARE OUTSIDE THE WARRANTY BOND PERIOD, SO WE CAN'T HAVE A WHOLE CONVERSATION ABOUT A WARRANTY BOND THAT IS WORK-- EXPIRED, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THE OPTIONS PERSONALLY.

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REGARDLESS, WE HAVE TWO REPAIR INFRASTRUCTURE AND GET IT WORKING CORRECTLY. SO THIS IS TO REPAIR THE DAMAGED LINE, AND ALSO TO SEE SOME REIMBURSEMENT.

BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

I CAN KEEP YOU ALL HERE ALL NIGHT TALKING WASTEWATER.

THOMAS IS HERE, NOT ME. SO ALL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT

YOU HAVE ON THE SIDE. >> CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY DECLARED THIS TIME LAST YEAR.

WITH THAT SAID, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, BUT IS THERE POSSIBLE FEMA, STATE FUNDS, GRANTS BECAUSE IT WASN'T AN EMERGENCY? IS SOME OF THAT AVAILABLE TO REIMBURSE US ON THE SIDE OF THE CHARTS?

>> THERE IS A PROCESS FOR THAT. AND WE MISS THAT WINDOW FOR THAT

PROCESS. >> CAN WE GET BACK THAT WINDOW?

>> I WILL CALL FEMA RIGHT NOW. THERE IS A VERY PRESCRIPTIVE THING YOU DO DURING EMERGENCIES THAT USUALLY HAVE A WHOLE POLICY PROCEDURE MANUAL ON HOW YOUR REPORT THINGS AND GET THAT REIMBURSEMENT. A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH HOW YOU DOCUMENT. AND YOU HAVE TO GET IT IN ON TIME TO REIMBURSE. WE ARE PAST THAT WINDOW NOW.

I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER. >> WHAT TYPE OF WINDOW ISN'T

NORMALLY FOR THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT FRAME, BUT I KNOW WE ARE VERY MUCH PAST IT.

WE ARE A LONG WAYS PAST IT. NOT LIKE 30 DAYS.

>> THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL. DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

>> I MOVED TO PRESENT ITEM C AS PRESENTED.

>> MOTION HAS BEEN PRESENTED. ALL IN FAVOR? 5-0. IT PASSES.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM 4D.

AT THIS TIME WE HAVE TWO VACANCIES THAT ARE OPEN RIGHT NOW AND COUNCIL WAS GIVEN THE APPLICANTS THAT HAVE SUBMITTED.

AND WE HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THAT.

BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LET OUR CITY SECRETARY START THIS ITEM OFF AND WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ITEM 4D IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO FILL VACANCIES ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD IN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. APPLICATIONS ARE ACCEPTED THROUGH THE COMMISSION'S APPLICATION PROCESS AND PROVIDED TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW. CURRENTLY THERE IS ONE REGULAR APPOINTMENT TO BE MADE TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD FOR A REGULAR TERM ENDING OCTOBER 31, 2028.

THERE ARE ALSO TWO APPOINTMENT'S FOR PLANNING AND ZONING, ONE WITH A TERM ENDING OCTOBER 3RD 2028, AND ONE UNINSPIRED-- UNEXPIRED TERM ENDING OCTOBER, 2027.

SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR COUNCIL TO CONDUCT DISCUSSION AND CONSIDER THE APPOINTMENTS TO FILL THOSE VACANCIES.

ONCE YOU IDENTIFY THOSE INDIVIDUALS, WE WILL NOTIFY THE APPLICANTS, ADMINISTER OATH'S, UPDATE THE OFFICIAL RECORDS, AND COORDINATE ONBOARDING. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

MAYOR, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, OR IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DISCUSS THOSE APPLICANTS AND DECIDE WHICH ONES FOR WHICH-- WHICH BOARDS ARE READY TO TAKE THAT DOWN.

>> I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING, TO BOTH POSITIONS NEED TO BE FILLED TONIGHT TO ESTABLISH CORAM, OR IS ONE OKAY. DO WE HAVE TO FILL BOTH VACANCIES? IS WHAT I HAVE TO ASK THERE.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO. >> ON THE PARKS AND, TO WE NEED

TO FILL THAT VACANCY TONIGHT. >> THEY DON'T HAVE TO FILL THE

VACANCY TONIGHT. >> I NEEDED SOME CLARITY THERE.

DUE TO THE TIME FRAME, I'D LIKE TO LOOK OVER IT MORE.

AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR COUNCIL FEEDBACK.

I'D LIKE A BIT MORE TIME TO LOOK OVER THE APPLICANTS.

ONE THING I KNOW WE DISCUSSED, AND IS CHALLENGING AT TIMES, IS THEY PUT THEIR ADDRESS, BUT WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE IN CITY LIMITS OR NOT. SO I KNOW WE HAVE SOME REQUIREMENTS ON PLANNING AND ZONING, WHERE THREE SHOULD BE IN CITY LIMITS. SO JUST FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, I DID NOT HAVE TIME TO LOOK THROUGH ALL OF THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE APPOINTMENT FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING AND OFFER THAT TO COUNCIL.

AND IF WE COULD MOVE THIS TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TO GIVE SOME TIME. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT-- OUT THE

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REST OF THE COUNCIL FEELS ABOUT THAT AS AN OPTION.

BUT I'D LIKE TO OPEN THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION.

>> I AGREE. I CAN PUT THAT RECOMMENDATION FORWARD, BUT I AGREE THAT WE SHOULD PAUSE AND TAKE TIME TO

LOOK THROUGH THEM ALL. >> IS THERE ANY OTHER

DISCUSSION? >> IF NONE OF THEM ARE CRUCIAL, I WOULD BE FINE ON HOLDING OFF ON ALL APPOINTMENTS.

>> FOR ME, WHILE WE HAVE TAKEN STEPS TO PUT THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL FOR PLANTS AND WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY SHARKLIKE ISSUES.

WE HAD A PNC THAT CANNOT MAKE CORAM LAST NIGHT BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY THREE. SO I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE APPOINTING AT LEAST ONE. TO THE PNC.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALISTIC TO EXPECT ALL THREE OF THOSE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT ALL THE TIME. SO I WOULD LIKE TO COVER THAT IN

THE PNC. >> I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I NOTICED IN THEIR APPLICATION THERE ARE CHECKBOXES FOR THAT.

>> SOMETIMES THEY THINK THEY LIVE IN CITY LIMITS THOUGH.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> I WILL TELL YOU THAT I CHECKED ONE THAT SAID THEY ARE IN CITY LIMITS AND THEY ARE NOT IN CITY LIMITS. AND PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW IF THEY ARE OR NOT AND WE HAVE TO CHECK THEM.

>> IF THERE IS NO OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION--

>> I WILL MAKE A MOTION-- >> HOLDS ON.

>> I'M CURIOUS IF THE ONE PERSON WOULD FACTOR IN TO THE ONE THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING TO BE THE SAME-- IF IT WOULD FACTOR INTO THE REQUIREMENTS OF WHETHER LIVING IN THE CITY LIMITS OR

NOT-- >> WE HAVE TO SEE WHO'S MOVING

THAT FAR FIRST. >> I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU WANTED TO SHARE ANY INFORMATION OR RESEARCH INTO THAT.

>> I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND STEVE. FORMALLY ON THE BOARD BEFORE IN THE PAST. AND HE'S WILLING WILLING TO STEP UP AND BE ON THE BOARD AGAIN. I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF BEFORE THE ELECTION. I THINK YOU'D BE GREAT FOR THIS POSITION. SO I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND STEVEN.

>> WHICH POSITION ARE YOU RECOMMENDING? OCTOBER 31ST 2028? AND YOU BE CLEAR ON THE MOTION

FOR ME PLEASE? >> THE LONGER-TERM, YES.

>> FOR CLARITY, STEVE I BELIEVE LIVES IN EJ-- IN THE EJ.

HOW MANY DO WE HAVE IN CITY LIMITS?

TWO? >> SO THAT'S GOOD.

>> OKAY., PERFECT. >> IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM

COUNCIL? >> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION.

>> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVOR? 5-0, MOTION PASSES.

STEVE MASSON IS ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR THE TERM ENDING OCTOBER 21ST 2028. THE OTHER TWO-- SECOND MOTION I BELIEVE IS GOING TO BE MADE TO POSTPONE THE OTHER TWO IF THAT IS WHAT COUNCIL CHOOSES TO DO. WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR

THAT. >> I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH POSTPONING IT BY ONE MEETING. BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THREE.

AND ALSO, I NOTICED IN PARKS AND REC, ALL OF THEM ARE FROM THE ISD. I'D LIKE TO GET SOME MORE MAGS OUT THERE. SO I WAS HOPING WE COULD DO A PUSH TO POTENTIALLY GET MORE IN. TO CONSIDER THAT.

IS THAT NOT A POSSIBILITY? >> YOU GUYS CAN MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE OTHER VACANCIES AND ADD CONSIDERATION AT THE OTHER MEETING. WE ALSO HAVE ANNUAL APPOINTMENTS

COMING UP IN SEPTEMBER. >> I THINK THAT IS MY CONCERN.

I DON'T JUST LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUALS, I LOOK AT THE WHOLE MIX OF THE BORDER-- BROADER COMMISSION.

SO I HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL OF THEM AND SAY THIS ONE IS HERE, THIS ONE HAS THIS EXPERIENCE, THIS ONE HAS THAT.

I'VE HAD THAT HABIT SINCE MY DAYS ON COMMISSION WHERE I'M LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PACKAGE OF PEOPLE ACT TOGETHER.

NOT JUST THE INDIVIDUAL SEPARATELY.

SO I THINK THAT THAT IS A POSSIBILITY, SINCE WE MAY HAVE MORE VACANCIES COMING UP. AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE DEADLINE FOR THOSE APPLICATIONS IS SEPTEMBER, WHICH MEANS THAT WE WILL HEAR IT PROBABLY IN OCTOBER.

>> YOU WILL HEAR IT IN SEPTEMBER BECAUSE THE APPOINTMENTS WILL BE

MADE BEGINNING NOVEMBER 1. >> BUT THE DEADLINE-- SEPTEMBER 15TH IF I REMEMBER THE ORDINANCE RIGHT, IS THE DEADLINE FOR PEOPLE TO RESUBMIT IF THEY WANT TO REAPPLY OR WHATEVER.

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IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT. >> I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND REVIEW. I DID NOT SEE A SPECIFIC

DEADLINE LISTED. >> YOU MAY WANT TO CHECK THAT.

I THINK WE PUT ONE ON THERE. WE WANTED TO HAVE TIME FOR COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE WE HAD TIME TO COUNT-- TALK TO PEOPLE.

IF WE PUT ONE OR TWO HERE AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO DON'T REAPPLY, WE MAY HAVE WISHED WE WOULD HAVE DONE IT DIFFERENTLY.

NOT ONLY THAT, WE HAVE THE CBA COMING UP, THE BOARD OF ETHICS, ENDED MY PACKET I SAW SEVERAL WHO GAVE US INFORMATION FOR THE BOARD OF ETHICS. NOT THE PNC.

SO THAT MEANS THEY MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THAT VERSE.

WHAT I LIKED ABOUT THE FIRE PROCESSES WE LET THEM SAY THIS IS MY CHOICE NUMBER 1, MY CHOICE NUMBER 2, MY CHOICE NUMBER 3.

AND WE CAN SAY WE LIKE THIS PERSON FOR THAT ONE, THIS PERSON FOR THAT ONE, AND WE HAVE MORE REFLEX ABILITY MAKING UP THE BEST GROUPS POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE DIVERSITY, SKILLS IN THESE AREAS, ET CETERA. BUT I KNOW THE CURRENT PROCEDURE IN THE APPLICATION FORM. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT SOME OF THE FORMS ARE MISSING ANSWERS FOR THE LACK OF THE PARKS AND REC BOARD. THEY WERE MISSING ANSWERS.

AND WE HAD A SURVEY AND I WAS CONFUSED IN A LOT OF CASES ON

THAT TOO. >> THAT'S LIKE-- THAT'S WHY WE LIKE TO CALL THEM-- ARE YOU THEN ASKING OR SUGGESTING THAT WE HAVE THE MOTION TO HAVE THE OTHER TWO POSITIONS BROUGHT TO US AT THE SAME TIME FRAME THAT THE OTHER VACANCIES ARE BROUGHT

TO US? >> SO WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF THEM TOGETHER TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH.

SO WE HAVE THE ENTIRE PACKET OF ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND ANALYSE IT BASED ON THE FIT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. NOT JUST FOR THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE INDIVIDUAL, BUT THE FIT OF THE INDIVIDUAL INTO THAT BOARD COMMISSION. I'VE ALWAYS DONE IT THAT WAY AND

I PREFER TO DO IT THAT WAY. >> I AGREE WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WERE COGNIZANT OF WHAT THAT COMMISSION IS DEALING WITH. AND IN THE MEANTIME YOU MAY NEED TO GET SOMETHING THROUGH OR MAKE CORAM, SOIL SO WANT TO PUT THEM IN THAT PREDICAMENT-- I DON'T WANT TO PUT THEM IN THAT PREDICAMENT. BUT WE THEN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMISSIONER. DO WE NEED TO DO A MOTION FOR THIS? OR ARE WE GOOD?

>> I HAVE NOTED WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE OTHER TWO VACANCIES BACK DURING THE ANNUAL APPOINTMENT.

>> SOUNDS GOOD. >> THOMAS, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU

WOULD LIKE TO ADD? >> ALL I WOULD SAY IS THAT AS PART OF THIS PROCESS WE WILL LOOK AT HOW WE CAN MAKE IT A BIT EASIER TO TELL WHO IS WITHIN THE SEMI LIMITS OR ET JAY AND ALL

THAT. >> THANK YOU.

OKAY. ITEM FOUR ME, DISCUSSING CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON ADOPTING THE PUBLIC COMMENT POLICY ESTABLISHING PROCEDURES FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND

COMMITTEES. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AT THE JUNE 10TH MEETING, COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO RETURN TO THE PUBLIC COUNCIL... THIS CONSOLIDATES THE CITY'S EXISTING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PRACTICES INTO ONE POLICY THAT APPLIES CONSISTENTLY WITH COUNCIL AND ALL CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES, SUBJECT TO THE TEXAS OPEN COMMITTEE ASKED.

IT ESTABLISHES PROCEDURES FOR ORAL AND WRITTEN COMMENTS, SPEAKER REGISTRATION, TIME LIMITS, AND CORAM WHILE PROVIDING FOR A FRAMEWORK AND ADMINISTRATION ACROSS ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS. THIS POLICY HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND REFLECTS THE DIRECTION PROVIDED BY COUNCIL AT THE JUNE 10TH MEETING.

STAFF RECOMMENDS ADOPTION OF THE PUBLIC POLICIES PRESENTED AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? >> FIRST, THANK YOU.

ETHIC THE SOPS CLARIFY A LOT OF STUFF SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S VERY TRANSPARENT ON HOW WE HANDLE THIS GOING FORWARD. THE MINOR, MINOR, ON THE FIRST PAGE WE USE THE TERM "BOARD", BUT WE DON'T DEFINE THAT TILL THE SECOND PAGE. SO WE HAVE TO MOVE THAT DEFINITION. IT'S MINOR.

BUT MY QUESTION IS, AND IT MAYBE SEMANTICS, IF IT'S PUBLIC COMMENT OR NOT, BUT IN THE PAST, OUR COMMENT ON A SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEM, WE ALLOWED A PERSON TO SPEAK ON THAT AGENDA ITEM.

AND BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE AGENDA THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOME EXCHANGE. ESPECIALLY ON SOME OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. AND WE HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE WHERE THERE WAS ENGAGING-- IT WAS ENGAGING WITH THE PERSON MAKING COMMENTS. I DO NOT SEE THAT HERE TO SAY THAT WE ARE GIVING HIM THAT CHOICE ANYMORE.

AND IT MAYBE SEPARATE, BUT I WOULD LIKE US TO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR ON THAT. BECAUSE WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH IT

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IN THE PAST AS WELL. AND IT MAY JUST BE A TERMINOLOGY THING, OR WHAT EVER, BUT ARE WE GOING TO-- THEY DISTINGUISHED IT BEFORE WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THINGS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

AND THEN BEING ABLE TO SPEAK TO AN AGENDA ITEM.

AND THEY WERE GIVEN A CHOICE TO DO THAT IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, OR WHEN WE ARE DISCUSSING THAT AGENDA ITEM.

ARE WE NOT GOING TO DO THAT? I THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ON IT. THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION.

>> I THINK THAT ONE OF THE KEY DISTINCTIONS, JUST KIND OF THINKING ABOUT BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE HERE IS THAT COMMENT ON A PUBLIC ITEM IS A COMMENT. SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE THEM MORE CLEAR, WE CAN.

AND I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. I HOPE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PUBLIC HEARING AND A

COMMENT. >> I DID NOT MEAN A PUBLIC HEARING. I MEANT SPEAKING TO A SPECIFIC

AGENDA ITEM. >> RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO IF WE NEED TO-- WE ARE HAPPY TO CLARIFY THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS SUPER CLEAR. AND IF YOU ALL ARE COMFORTABLE MAKING A MOTION TO SAY WITH THE CHANGES DISCUSSED, WE ARE HAPPY

TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE THE POLICY ON PUBLIC COMMENTS, ESTABLISHING THE PROCEDURES FOR PUBLIC PARTICIPATION BEFORE COUNCIL, AMENDMENT, CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES, WITH THE AMENDMENT TO CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PUBLIC COMMENT, VERSUS AN AGENDA ITEM COMMENT. DOES NOT COVER IT, THOMAS?

>> YES. THERE WILL NOT BE MUCH OF A

DIFFERENCE. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR.

>> BUT THE TIME LIMIT STILL APPLIES AND THE SAME GENERAL

RULES AROUND COMBAT-- COMMENTS. >> WHATEVER IT IS I JUST WANTED

TO BE CLEAR. >> NO PUBLIC COMMENT.

JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. >> I'M SORRY, I DID NOT MEAN THAT. I MEANT IT WILL NOT BE DONE DURING THE AGENDA ITEM. BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR WHETHER OR NOT A BOARD COMMISSION COUNCIL, ET CETERA, CAN ENGAGE WITH THEM, OR STAFF CAN ENGAGE WITH THEM DURING THAT

PERIOD AS WELL. >> YES.

WE GOT IT. >> I WILL SECOND.

>> MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? 5-0. MOTION PASSES.

[5) DISCUSSIONS]

>> ON TO ITEM 58. POTION TO DISCUSS ON DATA CENTERS. YES.

GETTING AHEAD OF IT. >> I'M GOING TO TRY TO GET THROUGH ABOUT 27 SLIDES. COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS A DISCUSSION ITEM FOR YOU ALL. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS SURROUNDING THIS TOPIC AT THE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL, THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THE STATE LEVEL, AT THE MUNICIPAL LEVEL.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF FEELINGS SURROUNDING THIS TOPIC. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT EFFORTS COULD END UPCOMING TO FRUITION RELATIVE TO PREEMPTION. SOME CITIES ARE TAKING VERY AGGRESSIVE STEPS TOWARDS EITHER BEING PRO-OR ANTI-DATA CENTERS.

IF YOU ALL RECALL IN THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA THAT YOU ALL ADOPTED, WE REALLY TALKED ABOUT PRESERVING A CITY'S RIGHT AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, AND THE CLOSEST GOVERNMENT TO THE PE PEOPLE-- PRESERVING THE CITY'S ABILITY TO GOVERN AS YOU SEE FIT. SO THAT'S A FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT THAT IS IN THEIR RELATIVE TO DATA CENTERS.

SO THIS IS A PLACEHOLDER, A SPOT FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE CONVERSATION. WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. IT'S A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO DO RELATIVE TO GETTING IN FRONT OF THIS.

NOT TOUCHING IT. I'M HAPPY TO TAKE YOUR

DIRECTION. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT INITIALLY I HAD THOUGHT OR HOPED THAT WE COULD ALLOW THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE TO GO THROUGH IT'S PROCESS TO A GREAT-- ADDRESS DATA CENTERS. HOWEVER, WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS THAT THERE ARE GROWING CONCERNS THAT IF WE DO NOT STOP THAT ORDINANCE NOW TO ADDRESS DATA CENTERS, WE COULD BE PREEMPTED AT EITHER THE NATIONAL LEVEL OR THE STATE LEVEL, FROM BEING ABLE TO REPRESENT THE VIEWS OF OUR CITIZENS.

AND I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO THAT. SO THAT INCLUDES ALLOWING THEM TO REQUIRE CLOSE WATER SYSTEMS, WHATEVER.

SO DISCUSSIONS AS WE HAVE SEEN IN THE NEWS ALREADY, LIKE YOU

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SAID, THOMAS, AND WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE GO TO EXTREMES.

THERE HAVE BEEN MORATORIUMS, LAWSUITS ALREADY.

AND I THINK THAT MY CONCERN IS THAT IF I UNDERSTAND, THERE ARE ALREADY COMMITTEES ONGOING TO DISCUSS THIS.

AND WE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT WHAT WE CALL DEATH STAR 2.0.

WHICH IS THE REVISION TO HOUSE BILL 21-27.

AND THAT ALREADY PREEMPTS OUR AUTHORITY IN MANY AREAS.

BUT THEY AREN'T LOOKING FROM EVERYTHING WE HEAR-- TO PREVENT-- PREEMPT OUR AUTHORITY FROM BEING ABLE TO CONTROL THE ISSUE OF DATA CENTERS. -- THEY ARE LOOKING, FROM EVERYTHING WE HERE, TO CONTROL THAT.

SO EVEN IF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS NOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW, WHAT I AM BEING TOLD, IS THAT IF WE DON'T GET SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS SAYING THAT THIS IS OUR POLICY, THAT THEY MAY COME AND PREEMPT US AND SAY IF WE DON'T-- WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY, YOU CANNOT PUT ONE IN PLACE. SO THEY MAY STILL TRY TO PREEMPT US. AND THEY STILL COULD HAVE ISSUES, BUT IF WE DO NOTHING NOW, I AM CONCERNED THAT WE WILL POTENTIALLY REGRET IT LATER ON. SO, WHILE I HATE TO HAVE TO GO AND ASK STAFF TO STOP GAP THE UDC WHILE THE REWRITE IS ONGOING, I FEEL IT'S TOO IMPORTANT TO NOT PLAY IT SAFE AND ADDRESS IT NOW. THAT IS MY OPINION.

SO EVERYTHING I'M HEARING, IT'S ALL LOOKING AT LEGISLATIVE

AGENDAS. >> I MEAN... I AM NOT FOR DATA CENTERS IN LIBERTY HILL. I MEAN-- I THINK RIGHT NOW, WHERE I STAND IS RESEARCH. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IT.

I KNOW THERE ARE LOTS OF CAN-- THERE IS LOTS OF CONFLICTING INFORMATION OUT THERE AND HOW THEY MIGHT IMPACT A CITY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY ASK STAFF TO GIVE SOME SORT OF PRESENTATION, OR INFORMATION TO COUNCIL IN REGARDS TO DATA CENTERS AND HOW THAT WILL IMPACT A COMMUNITY OR CITY OR IT'S WATER SUPPLY. I FEEL LIKE I NEED MORE INFORMATION. HOW DOES THE STOPGAP IMPACT THE UDC? YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

I HAVE THAT QUESTION. I DON'T WANT TO STOP US FROM MOVING FORWARD ON THINGS AT ALL. THEY ARE NOT GOING INTO DISCUSSION FOR A FEW MORE MONTHS.

US IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN KIND OF BE LOOKING AT WITHIN THAT TIME? GOING TO OUR LEGISLATORS, MAKING OUR VOICES HEARD WITHIN THAT TIME.

I GUESS I AM JUST TALKING OUT LOUD AS FAR AS NOT STOPPING THE MOVEMENT FOR OUR CITY, BUT AGREE THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HOW TO PROTECT A CITY'S FUTURE WHEN IT COMES TO DATA CENTERS

AND IT'S RESOURCES. >> LET ME CLARIFY WHAT I MEAN BY STOPGAP. I DON'T MEAN STOP UDC.

I MEAN THE STOPGAP IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO PATCH UDC.

WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT PIECE AND POTENTIALLY FIX IT NOW,

VERSUS WAITING UNTIL LATER. >> YOU ARE SAYING FOCUS ON THAT PORTION OF THE UDC RIGHT NOW TO GET THAT.

>> WE WILL STOPGAP THAT HOLE, BASICALLY.

WE WILL FIX THAT HOLE, WHILE THE UDC REWRITES IT.

WE WOULD NEVER STOP THE UDC REWRITE.

IS JUST TERMINOLOGY THAT WE'VE USED TO SAY WE ARE STOP GAPPING IT. WE WILL JUST STOP THE GAP RIGHT NOW, BASICALLY. AND LIKE I SAID, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS ON HOW WE SHOULD DO THIS IN OUR UDC REWRITE. I JUST KNOW WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING. SO I AM OPEN TO HAVING A WORKSHOP, RATING INFORMATION. DECIDING WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO DO, BASED ON WHAT OUR CITIZENS WANT TO DO, AND WHAT WE FEEL LIKE IS BEST. IS IT A ZONING ISSUE? WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT THEM? THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

I JUST FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IT NOW AND NOT WAIT.

I HAD THOUGHT WE COULD GET THROUGH IT.

I AM SCARED THAT THE TIME THAT IT TAKES US TO DO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND DO THESE THINGS, WE WILL JUST NOT HAVE TIME.

>> FOR CLARITY, I DON'T THINK ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY THINGS THAT WE ARE SAYING WE ARE FINE WITH DATA CENTERS HERE IN LIBERTY HILL. THE NEXT QUESTION IS HOW DO WE PROTECT THE CITY FROM EVEN BEING ABLE TO DO THAT LEGALLY? TYPE OF RIGHTS DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT? THAT IS WHERE MY QUESTION COMES IN FROM.

MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF-- I DON'T KNOW, THOMAS, I WILL LEAN ON U.S. TO HOW YOU THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD AFTER HEARING THIS-- I WILL LEAVE ON-- LEAN ON YOU AS TO HOW YOU THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD AFTER HEARING THIS.

[INDISCERNIBLE] >> I AM ALLPORT TECHNOLOGY.

I AM NOT FOR DATA CENTERS IN OUR TOWN.

I AM JUST NOT. WE HAVE A LOT OF GOVERNMENT

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STUFF, I DO A LOT OF STUFF WITH GOVERNMENT.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE HAVE UTILITIES, ELECTRICITY, 5% OF THE STATE WATER, WHATEVER. IN SOME OF THESE PLACES, THEY HAVE PRIORITY OVER OTHER RESOURCES OF THE CITY.

IN FACT IN VEGAS, THE FACILITY HAS A LOT OF GOVERNMENT STUFF IN IT. IT IS CONSIDERED A HUGE DATACENTRE. IF THERE IS A MAJOR CATASTROPHE IN VEGAS, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO CONFISCATE ALL THE GASOLINE AROUND THAT TOWN TO POWER THE BACKUP GENERATORS.

FROM THE HOSPITAL. THINK OF THAT.

THAT'S WHY I SAID YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME.

SO I DON'T WANT TO DISPARAGE IT TOO MUCH.

BUT FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T HAVE THE UTILITIES HERE TO SUPPORT THAT. AND I'M JUST NOT FOR IT IN OUR TOWN. THE DATA CENTERS.

I'M JUST NOT FOR IT. SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO PREEMPT

THAT, I THINK THE BETTER. >> THE MORE WE CAN PREEMPT THEM PREEMPTING US. BUT I KNOW THAT THE DATACENTRE PLAN IS TO PUT IT ALONG THE I35 CORRIDOR.

BUT WE DON'T KNOW. >> ANY COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH COUNCIL?

>> OKAY. SO THERE IS A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT PREEMPTION. AND HOW WE-- HOW THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO PROTECT ITSELF FROM-- OR THE COMMUNITY FROM NOT BEING IN CONTROL. NOT BEING A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION. WHAT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE WE WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS? WHEN IT COMES TO STOP GAPPING, THERE ARE A COUPLE WAYS YOU DO THAT.

ONE OPTION IS YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE UDC, AND EVALUATE THE LIKELIHOOD OF A DATACENTRE EVEN BEING ABLE TO BE BUILT HERE. I DO NOT HAVE A NUMBER HERE, BUT I THINK IT'S RELATIVELY LOW. THAT IS ONE POSITION OF, LIKE, CAN WE TAKE THE TIME NECESSARY TO BRING FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION, A STOPGAP UDC, RECOGNIZING THAT IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT SOMEONE WILL BUILD ONE IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.

THAT'S ONE OPTION. OPTION TWO, I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE, I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE OPTIONS.

OPTION TWO IS TO TAKE A MORE AGGRESSIVE STANCE AND SAY THERE WILL BE NO DATA CENTERS BUILT IN THE CITY OF LIBERTY HILL, UNTIL-- AND THAT DECISION WOULD NOT BE REVISITED UNTIL THERE IS A NEW UDC, ET CETERA. THERE'S DIFFERENT STEPS AND PROVISIONS THAT GO DOWN THAT PATH, A MORATORIUM PATH.

AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE LEGALITIES OF THAT.

SO I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING IS-- AND AM NOT PUTTING QUESTIONS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT I'M HEARING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE STAFF TO BRING BACK THE OPTIONS AT AN UPCOMING MEETING TO STOPGAP THIS AND ENSURE THAT THERE ARE NOT DATA CENTERS BUILT WITHIN LIBERTY HILL WHILE THOSE STOPGAP UDC MEASURES ARE BEING WORKED ON.

IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ASKING? >> I THINK THAT THAT IS CLEAR.

YES. >> COULD I ALSO ADD THE CAVEAT OF MORE INFORMATION BEING PROVIDED DURING WHAT YOU PRESENT TO US. THE NAMES, THE SPECIFICS.

I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS. ABOUT THE IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE. AND I NEED THAT INFORMATION.

>> THE ONLY CAVEAT I WILL THROW OUT THERE IS THAT THERE IS SO MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT DATA CENTERS.

AND I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT ON THE STANDARD DEVIATION, 20% OF IT IS WRONG OVER HERE AND 20% IS WRONG OVER HERE.

AND SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE THERE IS THIS CHUNK OF INFORMATION. AND IT SOMEWHAT CORRECT BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPASSIONED CONVERSATION.

IN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

WE HAVE A COUPLE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR BEING ONE OF THEM, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY BEING ONE OF THEM, WHO RECENTLY ATTENDED SOME SIGNIFICANT TML AND CITY EVENTS RELATED TO DATA CENTERS. SO THEY HAVE SOME UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION. SO WE WILL NOT BE TELLING YOU OUR OPINION. WE WILL SHOW YOU WHAT OTHER CITIES AND TML HAVE COMPILED. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE-- A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING THE DATA AROUND DATA CENTERS.

JUST WONDERING WHERE IT WILL GO. >> RATE.

[6) CONVENE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

AT THIS TIME, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PERCENT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071, CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY, REGARDING ITEM SIX A, PENDING POTENTIAL LITIGATION, AND SECTION 551.072.

DELIBERATIONS ABOUT REAL PROPERTY.

[7) RECONVENE TO REGULAR SESSION]

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>> ALL RIGHT. WE RECONVENE BACK TO HER REGULAR SESSION AT 8:12 P.M. DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

>> MAYOR, I MOVED TO MOVE EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA ITEM

SIX A IN TO OPEN SESSION. >> I SECOND THAT.

>> THE MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? THAT MOTION PASSES. ITEM 6B.

-- OH. IT WAS DISCUSSED UNDER 6A.

THAT'S WHY I AM CONFUSED. >> I AM SORRY.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA ITEM 6B IN TO OPEN SESSION.

>> I SECOND SECOND THAT. >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR?

MOTION PASSES. >> MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE REAL ESTATE AGREEMENT FOR UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> I SECOND THAT. >> MOTION IS MADE AND SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVOR? 5-0.

MOTION PASSES. IF THERE

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