[00:00:04] OKAY, WE ARE STARTING OUR REGULAR MEETING OF THE LIBERTY HILL CITY COUNCIL AT 5:01. [1) CALL TO ORDER] CAN WE PLEASE ESTABLISH A QUORUM? JACQUETTA THAYER. DIANE WILLIAMS. LACY SCOTT. TIM HENNESSY. OKAY. WITH THAT, WE HAVE QUORUM. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING, 2A. [2) PUBLIC HEARING] WE'RE GOING TO CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE PROPOSED ADOPTION OF AN AD VALOREM TAX RATE OF 0.494268 PER $100 VALUATION FOR TAX YEAR 2026. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS START OFF BY OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, JOSH ARMSTRONG. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL. SO TODAY WE ARE DOING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE TAX RATE. I DO APOLOGIZE FOR BEING AT 5:00. LAST YEAR WAS AT 5:00 AND WE WERE JUST KIND OF ON AUTOPILOT. WE COPIED AND PASTED THAT INFORMATION. I PROMISE YOU NEXT YEAR THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. SO YOUR PROPOSED BUDGET IS DESIGNED AROUND THE A PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 0.49268 PER $100 VALUATION. THE BUDGET FOR THAT IS THIS TAX RATE IS PUT AROUND WILL RAISE MORE PROPERTY TAXES THAN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET BY $937,656.04, OR 16.6%. AND OF THAT AMOUNT, $531,904.60, OR 56.7% OF THAT IS TAX REVENUE TO BE RAISED FROM NEW PROPERTY ADDED TO THE TAX ROLL THIS YEAR. YOUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION RATE IS SET AT A 0.329235 PER $100 VALUATION, AND YOUR DEBT SERVICE OR INS RATE IS SET AT A 0.165033 PER $100 VALUATION, FOR A TOTAL PROPOSED RATE OF 0.494268. WOULD WE LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. WE'LL OPEN UP FOR SOME QUESTIONS REAL QUICK. OH, ACTUALLY MY APOLOGIES. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING. WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 503. ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM? OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 503. I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO TO OUR COUNCIL AND COUNCIL MEMBER. THAYER, DO YOU WANT TO WE'LL JUST START ON THIS SIDE AND GO THIS WAY. ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK INITIALLY I WANTED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR AGAIN. AND I THINK I NEED TO GO BACK TO OUR PREVIOUS. I DO HAVE THAT SLIDE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE VERY END OF THIS PRESENTATION. I'LL HOLD OFF THEN FOR MY QUESTION. YEAH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE COULD DO THIS. AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF IT, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S LISTED AT THIS TIME. OKAY. AND SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE RECESS AND THE, THE PRESENTATION FOR THE OTHER PART IS AT THE 6:00 MEETING. THIS WAS TO GIVE AMPLE TIME TO MAKE SURE IF THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAD THE SPACE TO DO THAT BEFORE THE OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA LATER. WELL, THIS WILL BE LISTED AS OUR SHORTEST MEETING EVER IN THE HISTORY OF LIBERTY HILL. SO. SO WE WON'T HAVE QUESTIONS ON THIS RIGHT NOW. WE'LL HAVE AFTER THE BUDGET AT SIX. AT SIX. WHEN WE HAVE OUR 6:00 MEETING, WE'LL BE OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS. OKAY. SO ALL YEAH, ALL ALL'S WE NEED TO DO AT THIS POINT IS JUST RECESS UNTIL THE 6:00 MEETING. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, WITH THAT, WE'LL SEE EVERYBODY AT 6:00 AND WE'LL RECESS AT 504. [RECESS] THANK YOU. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE STARTING OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AT [RECONVENE] 6 P.M.. CAN I PLEASE ESTABLISH A QUORUM? JAQUETTA THAYER, MICHAEL HELBING, ELIZABETH BROWN. LACY SCOTT. TIM HENNESSY. OKAY. QUORUM IS PRESENT, AND WE'RE NOW GOING TO STAND FOR INVOCATION AND OUR PLEDGE. AND, OFFICER JOYNER, IF YOU COULD LEAD US IN PRAYER. [3) PRESENTATIONS] [00:05:17] ALL RIGHT. TONIGHT, WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION FOR OUR NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH AND STORM READY RECOGNITION. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED FOR THIS RECOGNITION. AND I'M I LOVE SEEING ALL YOU GUYS HERE. THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TONIGHT. SO IF Y'ALL WOULDN'T MIND COMING UP AND THEN CASSANDRA EDWARDS, WHO IS OUR EMERGENCY MANAGER, SHE'S GOING TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND THEN WE'LL READ THE PROCLAMATION. GENTLEMEN, COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING. CASSANDRA EDWARDS, EMERGENCY MANAGER FOR LIBERTY HILL. SO WE ARE SUPER EXCITED FOR A COUPLE THINGS. THE FIRST IS THIS IS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH, WHICH MAYOR IS GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION FOR IN HONOR OF NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH, WE'VE ALREADY DONE TWO VERY SUCCESSFUL OUTREACH EFFORTS. WE WERE PART OF A DELL DIAMOND PREPAREDNESS NIGHT LAST WEDNESDAY, AND THEN WE HAD A PARTNERS IN PREPAREDNESS FAIR LAST SATURDAY AT HAZEL ELEMENTARY, WHERE WE HAD OVER 400 KIDS SHOW UP TO GET SOME PREPAREDNESS SWAG. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO PROMOTE THE IDEA OF PREPAREDNESS. IF WE CAN GET MORE PEOPLE PREPARED ON THAT INDIVIDUAL AND FAMILY LEVEL, IT JUST BUILDS A MORE RESILIENT CITY, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT OUR MISSION IS. IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, IT'S VERY TIMELY THAT WE HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FOR BEING STORM READY, WHICH IS A CERTIFICATION THAT YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR AND MEET CERTAIN QUALIFICATIONS WITH YOUR EMERGENCY PLANNING AND YOUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION STRUCTURE AND YOUR WEATHER MONITORING SYSTEMS. SO WE'RE ALSO PROUD OF THAT ACHIEVEMENT IN HONOR OF THIS MONTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO HONOR. [00:11:26] ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. [4) PUBLIC COMMENTS] SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. AND COUNCIL IS NOT ABLE TO RESPOND BACK. I AM GOING TO BE VERY STRINGENT ON THE THREE MINUTES. WHEN YOU HEAR YOUR TIMER, PLEASE KNOW THAT THAT AT THAT POINT WE NEED YOU TO FINISH WHETHER IT'S AN END OF A SENTENCE. FINE. BUT TO MOVE ON, I'LL HAVE TO DO A HARD STOP. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW TONIGHT. WE WANT TO BE HONORABLE AND RESPECTFUL OF PEOPLE'S TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE FIRST WE HAVE IS MATTHIAS EARLY. MATTHIAS EARLY. OKAY. HE IS NOT HERE. JUSTIN. EARLY. COULD IT BE EARLY? JUSTIN? EARLY. OKAY. MARK VAN DEMENT. OH, AND MY APOLOGIES. AS A REMINDER, I THINK YOU KNOW THIS ALREADY, BUT. STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. CONGRATULATIONS. THERE WE GO. MY NAME IS MARK. I LIVE AT 211 NEIL DRIVE, LIBERTY HILL. JUST ACROSS THE ROAD. JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON SOME OF THE INFORMATION I SHARED LAST WEEK. I APPRECIATE BOTH OF Y'ALL RESPONDING BACK TO MY EMAILS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I APPRECIATE THAT. SO I THINK ALL OF Y'ALL MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE, LEANDER JUST LAST WEEK CANCELED THEIR CONTRACT. DALLAS IS DISABLED OVER 300 CAMERAS. AUSTIN OVER 200 CAMERAS. BUT LATE LAST MONTH, GOVERNOR ABBOTT ORDERED ALL TEXAS STATE AGENCIES TO PAUSE AND BLOCK STATE GRANT FUNDING FROM BEING USED TO PURCHASE OR SUPPORT FLOCK SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS, ADDING THAT THE USE OF THESE CAMERAS NEED TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED AND HEAVILY REGULATED TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE USED RESPONSIBLY, IF THEY'RE USED AT ALL. SO AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT FLOCK SAFETY HAS FILED A PATENT US 11416545 B1 WHICH IS TITLED SYSTEM AND METHOD FOR OBJECT BASED QUERY OF VIDEO CONTENT CAPTURED BY A DYNAMIC SURVEILLANCE NETWORK. SO THE KEY PATENT FEATURES IS OBJECT TRACKING. SO USES NEURAL NETWORKS TO IDENTIFY AND TRACK OBJECTS AND PEDESTRIANS. THE DETAILED CATEGORIZATION IS SORTS PEOPLE BY PHYSICAL AND DEMOGRAPHIC TRAITS LIKE CLOTHING, GENDER, AGE, HEIGHT, THAT'S AND THAT KIND OF INFORMATION. IT STORES THE MOVEMENT HISTORY ACROSS MULTIPLE CAMERA LOCATIONS OVER TIME FOR SEARCHABLE DATABASES. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT FLOC STATES IT'S JUST ALPERS, BUT THEY'RE FILING PATENTS TO MOVE BEYOND. SO SO MY COMMENT REALLY IS IF THE CITY APPROVES TO CONTINUE, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THE CITY COUNCIL COMMISSION, AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY AUDIT OF OUR FLOCK SAFETY CAMERA SYSTEM, ACCESS LOGS, A THIRD PARTY AUDIT WILL PROVIDE OBJECTIVE OVERSIGHT, VERIFY THAT DATA IS ONLY ACCESSED FOR AUTHORIZED LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES, [00:15:08] AND IDENTIFY ANY POTENTIAL MISUSE OR SECURITY VULNERABILITIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. SEAN PRIDMORE. HELLO, I AM SEAN PRIDMORE. I LIVE AT 400 FREEDOM PARK AVENUE. SORRY. FIRST I'D LIKE TO START OUT WITH SAYING, BENJAMIN FRANKLIN ONCE SAID THAT THOSE THAT GIVE UP LIBERTY FOR THE MONIKER OF FREEDOM. I MEAN, I'M SORRY, FREEDOM FOR THE MONIKER OF A LITTLE BIT OF SECURITY. THEY DESERVE NEITHER. AND I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU GUYS TODAY ABOUT FLOCK CAMERAS AND WHAT IT REALLY MEANS. AS SOMEBODY WHO WORKS IN THE SOFTWARE INDUSTRY, WHO HAS SEEN WHAT AUDITS LOOK LIKE, WHO SEES BAD ACTORS, I WORK WITH A FRAUD TEAM. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT OUR LADS HERE IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ABUSE THIS SYSTEM AT ALL. THEY I'VE WORKED I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL, AND I'VE ALWAYS FELT LIKE THEY HAD GREAT INTEGRITY, BUT IT'S NOT THEM THAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT. IT IS THE BAD ACTORS OUT THERE THAT HAVE CAUSED REAL HARM TO REAL PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES. TAKE LINDSAY. ISAAC EARLIER THIS YEAR IN FLORIDA, SHE WAS ACCUSED BY A CAMERA OF A HIT AND RUN ACCIDENT. THERE WAS 911 EVIDENCE AND PEOPLE CALLED IN WITH PARTIAL PLATES AND DIFFERENT DESCRIPTIONS OF THE CAR. THIS POOR LADY SPENT 13 DAYS IN JAIL. SHE SPENT SEVEN MONTHS OF HER LIFE TRYING TO GET IT BACK BECAUSE SHE WAS ACCUSED OF FELONY VEHICULAR ASSAULT. THAT ISN'T RIGHT, GUYS. WE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWING. WE SHOULD NOT BE BUYING INTO A SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS THIS TO OCCUR BY US SIGNING ON WITH THIS CONTRACT TO CONTINUE WITH THE FLOCK, WE ARE JUST ALLOWING THE BAD ACTORS A WAY INTO THE SYSTEM WHERE THEY CAN USE THE DATA THAT CAME FROM OUR COMMUNITY TO PERPETRATE THINGS THAT HAPPENED, LIKE LINDSAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE FLOCK CAMERA PEOPLE HAVE RECENTLY SAID THAT THEY HAVE RELEASED SAFEGUARDS. WELL, THE ACLU DISAGREES. THEY SAY THAT THEY'RE WORKING IN A BLACK BOX. THEY HAVE NOT DISCLOSED THE CODE. AS SOMEBODY THAT HAS TO WRITE THIS KIND OF CODE AND LOOKS AT THIS CODE DAILY, I AM WELL AWARE OF HOW EASY IT IS TO OMIT STUFF FROM THAT CODE, AND THAT THE LEVEL OF AUDIT THAT THAT IS REQUIRED TO CATCH THESE PEOPLE. IT'S NOT. IT CAN'T BE THERE. I'M SORRY, BUT UNLESS THEY ARE USING AI, WHICH THEY PROBABLY ARE, TO CREATE THIS AUDIT OR CREATE THIS FLAG, THERE ARE GUARDRAILS. AND I PROMISE YOU DAILY I FIGHT WITH AN AI THAT GOES OFF THE GUARDRAILS. AND WE CAN'T WE CAN'T BE PARTY TO THIS. SO THANK YOU PEOPLE. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. DEVIN WEINER. HI, I'M DEVON VINER, I LIVE IN LIBERTY PARK. I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE MY ADDRESS FOR OBVIOUS REASONS THAT SOME OF YOU ARE AWARE OF. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR. COUNCIL, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT. AS MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF MY JOB, I HAVE TO USE SOME GENERALITIES AND HYPOTHETICALS. IN MY THREE MINUTES, UNLIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE PUBLIC, I DON'T GET THE BENEFIT OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH BECAUSE OF THE CAREER THAT I CHOSE. SO THAT DICTATES SOME OF WHAT I SAY TODAY. I GIVE YOU THE FACTS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS. FLOCK IS ONE OF THE MANY TOOLS THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT USES AT THEIR DISPOSAL TO SOLVE CRIMES. WHEN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A STRING OF CAR BURGLARIES. WE HAVE THE RECORD OF THE SUSPECT VEHICLES ENTERING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THE NIGHT BEFORE. WHEN YOUR CHILD GETS OFF THE BUS, DOESN'T MAKE IT THE THREE BLOCK WALK TO YOUR FRONT DOOR. WE HAVE A LIST OF VEHICLES THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA, AND WE CAN MAYBE FIND WHAT'S MOST PRECIOUS TO YOU WHEN YOUR PRODUCT SERVICE FAMILY MEMBER TELLS YOU GOODBYE FOREVER. FLOCK HAS A TOOL AVAILABLE TO TRY AND FIND THEM BEFORE THEY MAKE THE MOST PERMANENT DECISION. WHEN YOUR AGING GRANDPARENTS GRAB THEIR CAR KEYS AND DRIVE AWAY, FLOCK YET AGAIN, IS A TOOL THAT MIGHT BRING THEM HOME SAFELY. DANGEROUS WANTED FELONS. SILVER ALERTS, AMBER ALERTS, BLUE ALERTS, DRUG INVESTIGATIONS, STOLEN VEHICLE RECOVERY THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE MANY REASONS WE NEED TO KEEP FLOCKING SERVICE. WELL, I COULD GIVE YOU CASE AFTER CASE OF PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF FLOCK BEING UTILIZED TO SOLVE CRIMES AND FIND LOVED ONES. I'LL AGAIN REFER BACK TO MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT ABOUT WHAT I CAN AND CAN'T SAY. I CAN'T EVER TELL YOU THAT ONE OF THE GENERALIZED EXAMPLES IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS, WHEN YOUR FLOCK SYSTEM HERE IN THE CITY GOT A SEX OFFENDER ARRESTED BECAUSE HE GOT IN HIS VEHICLE AND DROVE THROUGH THE CITY, AND ONE OF YOUR OFFICERS GOT AN ALERT. HE SPENT THE NIGHT AT WILLIAMSON COUNTY JAIL AFTER THAT. [00:20:03] OBVIOUSLY, PRIVACY IS A CONCERN. YOU WILL SELDOM FIND GREATER ADVOCATES OF SAFETY, SECURITY AND PRIVACY THAN THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, MYSELF INCLUDED. BUT TO REMOVE AN INCREDIBLE LAW ENFORCEMENT TOOL UNDER THE GUISE OF PRIVACY IS DISINGENUOUS. NOT A PERSON WHO HAS SPOKEN HERE TODAY OR THAT WILL SPEAK HAS EVER READ THE PRIVACY AGREEMENT THAT THEY CLICKED THROUGH WHEN THEY GOT THEIR NEW PHONE, WHEN THEY SIGNED UP FOR THEIR GYM MEMBERSHIP, WHEN THEY GOT THEIR REWARDS PROGRAM AT THEIR FAVORITE COFFEE SHOP, THE RADIO IN YOUR NEWER VEHICLE, THE TECH STACK YOU HAVE IN YOUR WINDSHIELD, THE LICENSE PLATE IN THE BACK, THE WI-FI ROUTER AT YOUR HOUSE, NOT TO MENTION THE CELL PHONE IN YOUR LAP. I'LL GIVE YOU WAY MORE DATA THAN YOU CAN EVER OBTAIN FROM FLOCK. WE'VE ALWAYS HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL HAVE TO BALANCE PRIVACY WITH PUBLIC SAFETY. TO SINGLE OUT FLOCK AS YOUR EVIL HERE, THOUGH, WHEN KNOWINGLY AND WILLINGLY, YOU SUBSCRIBE TO MUCH MORE INTRUSIVE RELEASES OF YOUR DATA IS FOOLISH AND SHORTSIGHTED. THE ANSWER HERE IS NOT GETTING RID OF FLOCK. THE ANSWER IS A WELL-WRITTEN, THOUGHTFUL POLICY ON HOW IT'S UTILIZED AND CLEAR CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT HAPPENED WHEN. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT'S ABUSED. AS A COUNCIL REQUEST, YOU CONTINUE TO EQUIP YOUR OFFICERS BETTER THAN MOST THAT YOU CONTINUE TO UTILIZE FLOCK SAFETY SYSTEM IN THE CITY OF LIBERTY HILL, AND YOU GIVE YOUR OFFICERS THE BEST TOOLS AVAILABLE TO KEEP CRIME OUT OF AND TO SOLVE CRIMES THAT OCCUR IN THE CITY. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. OMAR KHAYYAM CAFFE. THANK YOU. MY APOLOGIES. MY NAME IS OMAR CAFFE. CAF. I LIVE AT 136 RIVERVIEW ROAD. A NEIGHBOR. BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST POINT OUT IN BEATRICE, THIS ISN'T A POKE AT YOU, BUT IF ME BEING HERE TWO WEEKS AGO AND THE EMAIL FILTERING AT LIBERTY HILLS GOVERNMENT CAUGHT ME AS A SUSPECTED POTENTIAL MALWARE, I DON'T PUT A LOT OF CREDIT TO FLOCK. HOWEVER, TIM AND DIANE, I DID APPRECIATE YOUR GUYS'S COMMENTS ABOUT YOUR AGE AND WHAT YOU GUYS USED TO DO. IF I EVER WANT TO KNOW ABOUT COBALT, I'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW. I FIGURED YOU'D LIKE THAT. TIM AND JAQUETTA. I DIDN'T LIKE THE QUESTION ABOUT THE LM. THAT WAS VERY UNEXPECTED, I APPRECIATE THAT. NOW, TO MY POINT, I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO REJECT FLOCK CAMERAS ENTIRELY AND NOT SIMPLY PROMISE TO REGULATE THEIR USE. WE, THE FOLKS HERE, THE FOLKS THAT ARE WATCHING WHEREVER THE CAMERA IS, WE DON'T WANT THAT IN OUR IN OUR CITY. BUT BEFORE I GET INTO THAT, THIS IS NOT AN ARGUMENT AGAINST PUBLIC SAFETY OR LEGITIMATE POLICE INVESTIGATIONS. I DO NOT BELIEVE THE APPROPRIATE STANDARD SHOULD BE. WE HAVE POLICIES GOVERNING HOW WE INTEND TO USE IT. THE APPROPRIATE STANDARD SHOULD BE. WHY SHOULD THE CITY COLLECT THIS INFORMATION ABOUT ITS RESIDENTS IN THE FIRST PLACE? FLOCK STATES, AND THIS IS VERBATIM, THAT ITS CUSTOMERS CONTROL HOW THEIR DATA IS SHARED AND ESTABLISH ACCESS POLICIES THAT MAKES THE DECISIONS OF OUR CITY COUNCIL CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. MY CONCERN IS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO CLEARLY EXPLAIN WHAT WON'T THE DATA BE USED FOR? THAT'S NOT A MINOR QUESTION. BEFORE OUR CITY CREATES THIS SURVEILLANCE INFRASTRUCTURE. RESIDENTS DESERVE CLEAR ANSWERS ABOUT WHAT RESTRICTIONS WILL APPLY TO SEARCHES, ACCESS, DATA RETENTION AND SHARING. ONCE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE EXISTS, FUTURE COUNCIL'S POLICIES, CONTRACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES CAN CHANGE. WE AREN'T WILLING TO ACCEPT THE RISK OF GOVERNMENT OVERREACH ON PRIVACY SIMPLY BECAUSE THE SYSTEM MAY PROVIDE INVESTIGATIVE BENEFITS. THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO PURSUE PUBLIC SAFETY WITHOUT CREATING A CITYWIDE SYSTEM CAPABLE OF TRACKING VEHICLES. THE LAST THING THAT I'LL SAY IS THERE WAS A FLOCK REPRESENTATIVE HERE TWO WEEKS AGO, THAT REPRESENTATIVE SAYING THAT FLOCK USING AWS MAKES IT IMPERVIOUS TO DATA EXFILTRATION. AWS SECURES AWS. AWS DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF YOU. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ME OR ANYONE ELSE IN HERE. IT'S CALLED SHARED RESPONSIBILITY. WE ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE. AWS JUST GIVES YOU THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. KATE BUNCH. HI. MY NAME IS KATE BUNCH. I LIVE AT 2660. DOUBLE FILE TRACE. THANK YOU, COUNCIL AND MAYOR, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT LIBERTY HILL'S CONTRACT WITH FLOC AND THE LARGER QUESTION OF MASS SURVEILLANCE. WHEREVER SHE IS, THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING ALL OF THE METRICS LAST MEETING ABOUT HOW FLOC HAS ASSISTED THE DEPARTMENT. [00:25:06] I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I AM NOT ANTI-POLICE, AND I AM NOT AGAINST GIVING OFFICERS LEGITIMATE TOOLS TO INVESTIGATE CRIME. FLOCK CAMERAS CAN HELP INVESTIGATIONS IDENTIFY VEHICLES AFTER A CRIME HAS OCCURRED, BUT SOLVING A CRIME AFTER THE FACT IS NOT THE SAME THING AS PREVENTING CRIME. AND IT IS NOT PROOF THAT CONSTANT COLLECTION MAKES THE PUBLIC SAFER. SAFETY IS A POWERFUL WORD BECAUSE IT CREATES AN EMOTIONAL RESPONSE. THAT IS EXACTLY WHY SURVEILLANCE SHOULD BE JUDGED BY EVIDENCE, PROPORTIONALITY AND ENFORCEABLE LIMITS, NOT SIMPLY BY THE PROMISE THAT IT KEEPS US SAFE. WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN LARGE DATA SYSTEMS OUTGROW THE PUBLIC'S UNDERSTANDING OF HOW INFORMATION IS BEING USED. META AGREED TO A $725 MILLION SETTLEMENT OVER THE CLAIMS INVOLVING FACEBOOK'S USERS PERSONAL INFORMATION, AND THAT SETTLEMENT BECAME FINAL IN 2025. IN 2025, A FEDERAL JURY AWARDED A $425 MILLION PRIVACY VERDICT AGAINST GOOGLE AFTER USERS ALLEGEDLY ALLEGED DATA WAS NOT COLLECTED DESPITE TURNING OFF KEY TRACKING SETTINGS. THESE ARE NOT FLAT CASES, BUT THEY DEMONSTRATE WHY PRIVACY CANNOT DEPEND ON TRUSTS ALONE. SCALE IS WHAT IS CONCERNING ME USING THE TXDOT TRAFFIC INFORMATION. THE 2025 DATA SHOWED THAT THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY 29 AND ONE DAY HAD APPROXIMATELY 38,000 VEHICLES THAT WENT THROUGH IT. THAT SAME ROUTE WOULD AMOUNT TO ROUGHLY 1.14 MILLION VEHICLE PASSAGES OVER 30 DAYS AT THAT ONE INTERSECTION. THIS IS NOT A CLAIM THAT FLOCK STORES 1.41 MILLION UNIQUE DRIVERS, OR THAT EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE PASSAGE BECOMES A FLOCK RECORD. IT IS AN ILLUSTRATION OF HOW QUICKLY THE VOLUME CAN GROW. IF FLOCK HAS BEEN CREDITED LOCALLY WITH HELPING SOLVE APPROXIMATELY 16 CRIMES, THEN THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO COMPARE THAT BENEFIT WITH THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION COLLECTED ON PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT SUSPECTED OF ANY CRIME. WE SHOULD ALSO PAY ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT FLOCK ITSELF ANNOUNCED STRONGER SAFEGUARDS IN AUGUST OF 26, INCLUDING A MOVE TOWARDS A SEVEN DAY, LRAPR RETENTION REQUIRED CASE INFORMATION, STRONGER AUDITING AND MISUSE DETECTION, AND ADDITIONAL SECURITY MEASURES. I APPRECIATE THOSE CHANGES, BUT THEY ALSO SHOW HOW THAT SAFEGUARDS CAN CHANGE AFTER THE SYSTEM HAS ALREADY BEEN DEPLOYED. AND MISUSE IS NOT THEORETICAL. THIS WEEK ALONE, ALBANY COUNTY SHERIFF'S INVESTIGATOR WAS CHARGED WITH. MISAPPROPRIATING INFORMATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU KATE. THANK YOU. MAUREEN SABOL, I PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME RIGHT. DID I SAY IT CORRECTLY, MA'AM? YES. OKAY, GREAT. DO I GET A STEP STOOL? YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ADORABLE. I, I UNDERSTAND IT. NO, YOU'RE JUST FINE. THANK YOU. MAUREEN SAVILLE. MY ADDRESS IS 3603. AND LEANDER. DOZENS OF JURISDICTIONS HAVE CANCELED THEIR FLOCK CAMERAS. LAST WEEK, PFLUGERVILLE UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO TERMINATE THEIR CONTRACT AFTER DISCOVERING THAT HUNDREDS OF UNAUTHORIZED AGENCIES HAD ACCESS THE CITY'S DATA. FURTHER, FLOCK HAD BEEN USING PFLUGERVILLE AS LIVE DATA FOR TESTING, AND NOW OVER 1100 SEARCHES CONTAINING PEOPLE'S FULL NAMES AND DATES OF BIRTH. SIT ON A VENDOR DATABASE SEARCHABLE BY HUNDREDS OF AGENCIES WITHIN THE PAST WEEK AND A HALF, AT LEAST FOR MORE CENTRAL TEXAS CITIES HAVE MOVED TO END OR PAUSE THEIR USE OF FLOCK CAMERAS BASTROP, ELGIN MANOR AND LEANDER ENDING HIS DEPARTMENT'S FLOCK SAFETY PROGRAM. MEMBERS POLICE CHIEF SAID ULTIMATELY, THE TRUST OF MY COMMUNITY IS WORTH MORE THAN THAT CAMERA. ELGIN'S MAYOR SAID THE HIGH PROFILE CASES OF MISMANAGEMENT AND ABUSE OF DATA, ALONG WITH THE PUBLIC'S MISTRUST, OUTWEIGHED THE USE OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND BECAUSE OF THE MOMENTUM AGAINST MASS SURVEILLANCE. EVEN GOVERNOR ABBOTT HAS ORDERED ALL STATE AGENCIES TO PAUSE FUNDING OF FLOCK CAMERAS. WHAT CAN BE REVEALED FROM THIS TRACKING? WHERE YOU LIVE, YOUR CHURCH, MOSQUE, TEMPLE OR SYNAGOGUE, AND HOW OBSERVANT YOU ARE, YOUR UNION HALL, OR WHO YOU ROUTINELY ASSOCIATE WITH POLITICAL MEETINGS OR PROTESTS YOU ATTEND WHERE YOU RECEIVE MEDICAL CARE. NONE OF THAT REQUIRES FACIAL RECOGNITION. IT REQUIRES ONLY A PLATE, A TIME STAMP AND ENOUGH ENTRIES TO DRAW A LINE BETWEEN THEM. [00:30:02] ALPERS THREATEN OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. THE FOURTH AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION REQUIRES A WARRANT ISSUED BY A JUDGE AND BASED ON PROBABLE CAUSE. PRIOR TO INITIATING A SEARCH. BUT SEARCHES ARE BEING CONDUCTED WITHOUT WARRANTS. THE SURVEILLANCE IS TAKING PLACE WITHOUT A WARRANT AND WITHOUT PROBABLE CAUSE. AND THERE'S A FIRST AMENDMENT COST CARRIED BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT COMMITTED AN OFFENSE AND WILL NEVER BE CHARGED WITH ONE, BECAUSE KNOWING YOU MAY BE RECORDED CAN CHANGE WHAT YOU DO. IF ATTENDING A PROTEST OR A MOSQUE MEANS CREATING A DURABLE GOVERNMENT RECORD OF HAVING BEEN THERE. SOME PEOPLE WON'T GO. A SURVEILLANCE STATE DOES NOT MAKE FOR A HEALTHY COMMUNITY, AND THE ISSUE OF SURVEILLANCE CUTS ACROSS PARTY LINES. IT'S BEEN SHOWN THAT OVERPOLICING DOES NOT MAKE COMMUNITIES SAFER, AND ALPERS DO NOT REDUCE CRIME. THEY DAMAGE THE VITAL LINK OF TRUST BETWEEN RESIDENTS AND POLICE. THESE DEVICES TREAT SURVEILLANCE AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR ADDRESSING THE REAL AND UNDERLYING CAUSES OF CRIME. WE ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO DISCONTINUE THE USE OF ALL ALPERS UNTIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE HAVE TAYLOR. NELSON. GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'M TAYLOR NELSON. I LIVE ON LONGMONT COVE IN BUTLER FARMS. AND WHEN I CLOSED MY EYES TO PICTURE WHAT SAFETY LOOKS LIKE, I IMAGINE, OR I SEE THE INSIDE OF ONE OF THE KITCHEN CABINETS IN MY CHILDHOOD HOME, WHERE MY MOTHER KEPT A LIST OF NAMES AND PHONE NUMBERS OF ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND LOCAL AUTHORITIES. FOR US GROWING UP, MY BROTHERS AND I NEVER HAD TO WORRY ABOUT WHO WE COULD GO TO FOR HELP OR WHERE WE COULD GO. THAT WAS SAFE BECAUSE WE HAD THE COMMUNITY THAT MY PARENTS HELPED BUILD ALL AROUND US AND COMMUNITY CONNECTION THAT IS SAFETY. ON THE OTHER HAND, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING THAT MAKES ME FEEL LESS SAFE THAN SOMETHING THAT I CAN'T ESCAPE. IT'S LIKE THOSE NIGHTMARES WHERE NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU RUN OR WHAT YOU DO, THE BAD GUY WILL ALWAYS FIND YOU, ALWAYS CATCH YOU. AND THAT'S HOW FLOCK AND THESE ALPR TECHNOLOGIES MAKE ME FEEL. AS A COMPANY, EVEN FLOCK HAS ILLEGALLY REINSTALLED CAMERAS AFTER CITY OFFICIALS OF EVANSTON, ILLINOIS, ORDERED THEIR REMOVAL, RESULTING IN A CEASE AND DESIST. HOW CAN WE, IN GOOD CONSCIENCE, RELINQUISH OUR LIVES TO CORPORATIONS LIKE THIS? HERE IN LIBERTY HILL, OUR MOTTO IS SMALL TOWN, BIG HEART. BUT IF WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT ALPR TECHNOLOGY USE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE SHOULD GO AHEAD AND CHANGE THAT MOTTO TO SMALL TOWN, BIG INVASION OF PRIVACY OR SMALL TOWN. BIG BROTHER IS ALWAYS WATCHING. NOBODY IS SAYING THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE AN INVALUABLE TOOL IF REGULATED THOROUGHLY AND APPROPRIATELY. BUT IN ITS CURRENT FORM, IT IS NOTHING BUT A WEAPON OF EXPLOITATION. IT EXPLOITS OUR NATURAL RESOURCES. IT EXPLOITS OUR CITY FUNDING, AND IT EXPLOITS OUR RIGHTS AND OUR PRIVACY. OUR CITY ALREADY STRUGGLES WITH WATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND SUPPLY. MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD STILL HAVING ISSUES WITH WATER PRESSURE. BUT NOW WE'RE WANTING TO IMPLEMENT AI POWERED AND MONUMENTAL DATA STORING SURVEILLANCE TECH THAT GUZZLES MILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER THROUGH DATA CENTERS. THAT WILL PUT EVEN MORE STRAIN ON OUR POWER GRIDS AND AQUIFERS. AND WHY WOULD WE SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON TECHNOLOGY THAT, ON AVERAGE, MISREADS 1 IN 10 LICENSE PLATES? TECHNOLOGY THAT HAS LED TO COUNTLESS ERRONEOUS ARRESTS AND TRAFFIC STOPS, WHICH WASTES OUR DEPARTMENT'S TIME AND PUTS INNOCENT PEOPLE AT RISK. TECHNOLOGY THAT COSTS MILLIONS MORE DOLLARS SPENT IN LEGAL SETTLEMENTS DUE TO ABUSE OF DATA ACCESS THAT IS DESIGNED WITHOUT A FLAGGING SYSTEM FOR SEARCHES UNRELATED TO OPEN CASES, AND THAT LACKS ANY EXTERNAL CHECKS OR AUDITING FOR MISUSE BY AUTHORITIES AND CORPORATE SELLOUTS ALIKE. THESE ISSUES HAVE BEEN REPEATEDLY AND CONSISTENTLY REPORTED COUNTRYWIDE. THIS TECHNOLOGY CAN TRACK WHEN AND HOW OFTEN WE HAVE DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENTS, WHEN AND WHERE OUR CHILDREN GO TO SCHOOL. SAFETY IS NOT MASS SURVEILLANCE FOR MASS EXPLOITATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO TRY MY HARDEST TO READ. SAY THIS. SO MY APOLOGIES. CHARLIE. ANDREA. ANDREA. ANDREA. OH, SORRY. OH. MESSY HANDWRITING. THAT'S OKAY. YOU'RE. YOU'RE MEANT TO BE A DOCTOR ONE DAY. MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY. OR A LAWYER OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT. REALLY DOUBT THAT. ALL RIGHT. JUST STATE YOUR ADDRESS, [00:35:04] SIR. AND THEN YOU CAN START 208 GREAT LAWN IN LIBERTY HILL BY SANTA RITA. SO THIS GENTLEMAN HERE USED THE BEGINNING OF MY SPEECH. IT SEEMS HE SAID THE SAME QUOTE I DID, BUT IT'S BENJAMIN FRANKLIN'S. THOSE WHO WOULD GIVE UP ESSENTIAL LIBERTY TO PURCHASE A LITTLE TEMPORARY SAFETY DESERVE NEITHER LIBERTY NOR SAFETY. AND THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM FLOCK, I BELIEVE IN HIS PRESENTATION. IT SHOWED THAT IT FOUND AROUND 20,000 MISSING PEOPLE. BUT THAT'S NOT A LOT. WHEN AN ESTIMATED 350,000 TO 400,000 CHILDREN, JUST KIDS GO MISSING EVERY YEAR. AND THE 20,000 THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS JUST ADULTS AND CHILDREN COMBINED. AND I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE ABSURD THAT THEY ONLY FOUND THAT MANY WHEN THERE'S OVER 100,000 CAMERAS INSTALLED IN THE ENTIRE OF THE UNITED STATES, AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN PUT UP IN ONLY TWO YEARS. SO. YEAH. AND I WOULD ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE, I WANT TO SAY, IF YOU DON'T MAKE THE CHOICE THAT THE PEOPLE WOULD LIKE, THEN I BELIEVE THE PEOPLE HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE THAN TO TAKE ACTION UPON THEMSELVES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. BRETT MAHLER. BUT. THE REST OF HIS TIME, IF I COULD DO. I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS THAT? I WOULD LIKE TO CLEAN THE REST OF CHARLES CHARLES'S TIME IF I COULD DO THAT. NO. THERE'LL BE THREE MINUTES. THAT'S FINE. NO. MY NAME IS BRETT MAHLER. I'M AT 124040 PARK STREET. I'VE BEEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL MANY TIMES SINCE MAY REGARDING FLOCK, AND I HAVE APPRECIATED THE CHIEF'S PRESENTATION ON AUGUST 26TH. IT ANSWERED MANY OF THE PUBLIC QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT LIBERTY HILL SYSTEM DOES AND HOW THE DEPARTMENT SAYS IT'S USED. BUT I BELIEVE THERE ARE STILL IMPORTANT QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD BE ANSWERED BEFORE THE CITY CONSIDERS RENEWING THE CONTRACT. SINCE I BEGAN RAISING THESE QUESTIONS CONCERNS, THIS HAS GONE FROM WHAT SOME MIGHT HAVE VIEWED AS LOCAL ISSUE TO A MUCH BROADER TEXAS DISCUSSION PFLUGERVILLE, BASTROP, MANER, LEANDER, ELGIN AND RECONSIDERED OR PAUSED THEIR PROGRAMS AND PUBLICLY EXAMINED. EXAMINING ITS OWN SYSTEM. GOVERNOR ABBOTT HAS DIRECTED STATE AGENCIES TO STOP SPENDING STATE FUNDS ON NEW FLOCK DEPLOYMENTS, AND DPS RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THAT THEY THAT IT WOULD RESTRICT ACCESS TO ITS FLOCK NETWORK. AFTER THE TEXAS TRIBUNE FOUND THAT THOUSANDS OF AGENCIES HAD BEEN SEARCHING THE NETWORK WITHOUT A GRIEVANCE. I AM NOT ANTI-POLICE, AS I'VE STATED BEFORE, AND I'M NOT ANTI-TECHNOLOGY. I BELIEVE LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD HAVE EFFECTIVE TOOLS TO INVESTIGATE CRIMES, RECOVER STOLEN PROPERTY, AND PROTECT THIS COMMUNITY. MY CONCERN IS HOW THE TOOLS ARE GOVERNED. FIRST, I'D LIKE THE CITY TO EXPLAIN WHAT PUBLIC DISCUSSION TOOK PLACE BEFORE THE SYSTEM WAS ADOPTED. THE CHIEF STATED THAT DISCUSSIONS BEGAN IN MID 2024, AND THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED THE PROGRAM BY RESOLUTION IN DECEMBER 2024. I HAVE LOCATED THE 2024 BUDGET DOCUMENTS SHOWING THAT 22 20,900 FLOCK SAFETY SUPPLEMENTAL REQUEST, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT INFORMATION WAS ACTUALLY PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC AT THE TIME, INCLUDING THE SYSTEM'S CAPABILITIES, DATA SHARING, RETENTION AND SAFEGUARDS. SECOND, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE CITY'S OVERSIGHT AND OF ACCESS. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT SEARCHES REQUIRE A LEGITIMATE LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSE, A CASE OR EVENT NUMBER OR AND OR NOTES. AND THAT SEARCHES ARE LOGGED. THAT'S GOOD. BUT WHO ACTUALLY REVIEWS THOSE LOGS? HOW OFTEN ARE THEY REVIEWED AND HOW AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH IF IT'S MISUSED IS IDENTIFIED THERE. BEFORE I'D I'D LIKE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THE MEASURABLE UNITS. HOW MANY ARRESTS RECOVERED OF VEHICLES, MISSING PERSONS CASES, CASES OR INVESTIGATIONS. HAS LIBERTY HILL'S SYSTEM ACTUALLY ARRESTED? AND WHAT CRITERIA WILL THE COUNCIL USE TO DETERMINE THE BENEFITS JUSTIFY THE CONTINUED COST? FINALLY, SEVERAL OF THE CAMERA LOCATIONS APPEAR OUTSIDE OF LIBERTY HILL'S MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES. IF LIBERTY HILL'S TAXPAYERS ARE FUNDING THOSE CAMERAS, I WOULD APPRECIATE AN EXPLANATION OF THE AGREEMENT PERMITS, LEGAL AUTHORITY AND PUBLIC PURPOSE SUPPORTING THOSE LOCATIONS. WE REQUEST. MY REQUEST IS SIMPLE BEFORE WE RENEW. LET'S VERIFY. TRUST IS IMPORTANT, BUT TRANSPARENCY, AUDITING AND ACCOUNTABILITY ACCOUNTABILITY ARE HOW GOVERNMENT EARNS TRUST. [00:40:08] THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. JAMES DIEDORF. DID I PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME CORRECTLY? OH, PERFECT. MY NAME IS JAMES DIEDORF. I LIVE AT 240 NORTH SHORE DRIVE. AND I'M HERE ABOUT THE ALPR FLOCK. ALL THE REST OF THEM. I FIND IT EXTREMELY IRONIC THAT IN A TOWN CALLED LIBERTY HILL THAT WE'RE EVEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION IN THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS. YOU KNOW, IT'S CLEAR FROM OUTRAGE ACROSS TEXAS AND THE UNITED STATES, THE MAJORITY OF AMERICAN CITIZENS FIND THE IDEA OF THIS AI POWERED, OVERARCHING SURVEILLANCE APPARATUS TO BE ABHORRENT AND CONTRARY TO THE CONSTITUTION, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY INSTANCES OF ABUSE OF THESE SYSTEMS, AND NO ONE CAN MAKE ANY KIND OF GUARANTEES THAT THE INFORMATION GATHERED WILL NOT BE USED FOR NEFARIOUS PURPOSES. YOU CAN LOOK AT CHINA AND SEE HOW THIS TECHNOLOGY WILL BE USED. MAYBE NOT NOW, BUT IT WILL BE. CHINA USES AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION SYSTEMS AS A CORE COMPONENT OF ITS NATIONWIDE MASS SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM. MILLIONS OF HIGH RESOLUTION, AI ENABLED CAMERAS SCAN AND LOG VEHICLE LICENSE PLATES ACROSS HIGHWAYS, CITY STREETS AND INTERSECTIONS. PLATE DATA FEEDS DIRECTLY INTO MASSIVE STATE DATABASES LINKING VEHICLE MOVEMENTS WITH FACIAL RECOGNITION, PHONE TRACKING, AND BEHAVIOR PROFILING. AUTHORITIES CONTINUOUSLY TRACK VEHICLE LOCATIONS TO MAP CITIZEN TRAVEL PATTERNS AND FLAG WHAT THE GOVERNMENT DEFINES AS SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOR. THIS IS TEXAS, NOT THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA. WE DON'T WANT A SURVEILLANCE STATE. AND YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO FIX THIS. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU, SIR. LISA. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS LISA PHOTO, SO YOU CAN PUT A FACE TO THE NAME FOR THE EMAILS I SENT EACH OF YOU. LISA. AFTER LAST MONTH'S MY APOLOGIES REALLY QUICK. CAN YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS? 0220. CASTILLO BEND. PERFECT. THANK YOU. IT WAS MY FIRST MEETING SINCE MOVING HERE LAST. THE LAST MEETING? THE MAYOR ENCOURAGED EACH OF US TO WRITE. SO TO YOU, SO I DID. YOU MUST ALSO KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT THE TYPE TO DO ANY PUBLIC SPEAKING, BECAUSE IT CAN BE TERRIFYING FOR SO MANY. I LIVE IN LIBERTY HILL, BUT LOCATED IN SANTA RITA RANCH. NOT A LIBERTY HILL PROPERTY. WE ARE UNINCORPORATED, YET YOU STILL REPRESENT ME. I MOVED TO TEXAS FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024, SO RIGHT BEFORE FLOCK WAS DISCUSSED AT YOUR COUNCIL MEETING. AND THAT FLOCK CAMERAS BUDGET WAS APPROVED. MY ESCROW CLOSED EXACTLY TWO YEARS AGO TODAY. MUCH TO MY SURPRISE, IT IS ALARMING TO ME THAT WE HAVE THE CAMERAS HERE TOO. I WAS VERY INVOLVED WITH MY CITY COUNCIL IN CALIFORNIA AND LEARNED HOW THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO HEAR FROM ITS CONSTITUENTS. I AM ALSO VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IS A PLANNED COMMUNITY. COMMUNITY IS BECAUSE I LIVED IN MISSION VIEJO, WHICH IS THE FIRST PLANNED COMMUNITY FOR THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES. FORMED BY THE MISSION VIEJO COMPANY, MISSION VIEJO WENT THROUGH GAINING CITYHOOD BECAUSE IT WAS ALSO AN UNINCORPORATED PART OF ORANGE COUNTY AT ONE TIME. I'VE DONE PUBLIC COMMENTS MANY TIMES. NOT MY FAVORITE THING TO DO, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S NECESSARY. WE WERE FIGHTING FLOCK CAMERAS IN CALIFORNIA, TOO. THEY ARE STILL FIGHTING THEM. WE WERE ON LOCKDOWN FOR FOUR YEARS DURING COVID. IT WAS AN UNIMAGINABLE EXPERIENCE TO KEEP ENCOURAGED AND HAVE A MORE NORMAL WAY OF DAILY LIFE. NOT ONE PUBLIC COMMENT LAST MONTH WAS IN FAVOR OF FLOCK CAMERAS, EXCEPT FOR THE POLICE CHIEF AND THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM FLOCK SAFETY. I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING LAST MONTH BECAUSE I NEEDED MORE INFORMATION, WHICH I NOW HAVE, AND I SHARED IT WITH EACH OF YOU. LET ME SHARE IT PUBLICLY. SO THERE IS A RECORD OF IT IN THE MINUTES. THIS IS A LETTER FROM SENATOR JOSH HAWLEY TO GARRETT LANGLEY, WHO IS THE CEO OF FLOCK SAFETY. IT IS DATED AUGUST 26TH. SENATOR HAWLEY IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE JUDICIARY SUBCOMMITTEE ON CRIME AND COUNTERTERRORISM. [00:45:09] AND THE LETTER READS. DEAR MR. LANGLEY, AS CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE JUDICIARY SUBCOMMITTEE ON CRIME AND COUNTERTERRORISM, I AM INVESTIGATING FLOCK SAFETY COLLECTION, RETENTION, AND DISSEMINATION OF THE DATA GENERATED BY ITS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS. IN A FEW SHORT YEARS, FLOCK HAS ASSEMBLED AN UNPRECEDENTED NATIONAL SURVEILLANCE NETWORK. YOUR COMPANY BOASTS MORE THAN 120,000 CAMERAS ACROSS 49 STATES AND MORE THAN 20 BILLION VEHICLE SCANS EVERY MONTH. LISA, WE HAVE TO HARD STOP. BUT CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR? YES. I DON'T. DID YOU SEND THAT PORTION TO COUNSEL? THAT LETTER. I BELIEVE YOU DID. I DID, OKAY. AND THANK YOU FOR BOTH YOU AND DIANE RESPONDED TO ME. IT DOES SOUND LIKE YOU ARE A PART OF ANOTHER COMMITTEE THAT IS OVERSEEING BOTH DATA CENTERS AND FLOCK SAFETY AND THE IMPACT THAT THE COMBINATION OF THOSE THINGS IN OUR CITY. IT MATTERS. YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. EVERYBODY'S SAYING NO. AND YOU REPRESENT US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. JUSTIN EARLEY, I BELIEVE YOU'RE HERE NOW. JUST EARLY, EARLY, EARLY. I DID SAY EARLY. EARLIER. BUT YOU WEREN'T HERE. YOU WEREN'T HERE EARLIER. YES. I'M HERE. SO I CHANGED IT TO EARLY. OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUSTIN EARLY. JUSTIN, PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS BEFORE YOU START. YES. JUSTIN EARLY AND I LIVE AT 510 SOUTH MYRTLE STREET IN GEORGETOWN. HELLO EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS JUSTIN EARLY. I AM YOUR DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR TEXAS 31ST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT. RIGHT HERE IN LIBERTY HILL. AND THERE'S NOTHING I CAN SAY TO YOU GUYS THAT YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY HEARD, RIGHT? WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED. THEY'RE SCARED. THEY'RE NERVOUS ABOUT THESE ALPERS ALPERS ARE NOT NOTHING NEW. I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FLOCK SAFETY SPECIFICALLY SINCE 2016 AND FIGHTING AGAINST THEIR POLICIES. THEY'VE BUILT THIS SURVEILLANCE NETWORK THAT LOTS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE, DIFFERENT COMPANIES, AND DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES ARE A PART OF. BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY IS THE PUSHBACK OF THAT. SO WHAT I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW OF. YOU HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION IN FRONT OF YOU. HOW DO YOU ENSURE YOUR CITIZENS FEEL SAFE? AND RIGHT NOW WITH THESE CAMERAS AND THESE ALPERS, THEY DO NOT FEEL SAFE. WE'VE SEEN THE EDGE COUNTS, EDGE CASES WHERE NEGATIVE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THESE THINGS. WE HAVE ALSO HEARD FROM POLICE OFFICERS AND PEOPLE WHO USE THESE TOOLS IN ORDER TO DO THEIR JOBS. THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE'RE HAVING IS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS OF OUR FOURTH AMENDMENT, FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS, AND WE'RE SEEING INFRINGEMENTS ON THE FIRST AND SECOND AMENDMENTS AS WELL. AND SO WHAT I'M ASKING YOU GUYS TODAY IS TO HOW DO YOU MAKE YOUR CITIZENS FEEL SAFE? AND YOU DO THAT BY ENTRUSTING THEM FLOCK SAFETY CAME HERE AND SPOKE WITH YOU GUYS AND ENSURED A LOT OF THINGS FOR YOU. THEY GAVE YOU A LOT OF DATA AND A LOT OF NUMBERS, BUT YOUR CITIZENS ARE HERE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS NOT WHAT THEY FEEL IN THEIR HEARTS, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE HERE FOR. I WANT TO ALSO SAY LASTLY, IS THAT LIBERTY HILL TO ME, THAT IS THE NAME THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO HONOR AND STICK BY BECAUSE THESE ARE ACTUALLY AN EROSION OF LIBERTY. THE LONGER THEY GO ON, THE MORE THAT THEY HAVE, THEY WILL ACTUALLY GROW THAT SURVEILLANCE NETWORK. AND THEY HAVE THEM IN PRIVATE INDUSTRIES, PRIVATE COMPANIES, AND EVEN HOMES. BUT DON'T LET YOUR MUNICIPALITY BE A PART OF THAT NETWORK BECAUSE AS THE PEOPLE PUSH BACK, THEY WILL START GOING AWAY AND YOU GUYS WILL BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF LIBERTY AS LIBERTY HILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. MATHIAS. EARLY. ADA FIVE SOUTH PINE STREET. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR HAVING THIS MEETING. MY APOLOGIES. STATE YOUR ADDRESS. YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS? MATHIAS. EARLY. WHAT'S THAT? MATHIAS? EARLY 805 SOUTH PINE STREET. THANK YOU. SO A LITTLE BIT MY EXPERIENCE, I'VE BEEN THROUGHOUT THIS COMMUNITY LATELY. AND I HAVE TALKING TO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO ARE SPECIFICALLY ON FLOCK CAMERAS. AND THAT INCLUDES DATA SECURITY SCIENTISTS AND EVEN A PROFESSIONAL HACKER. AND WHAT I COME UP WITH TIME AND TIME AGAIN IS PEOPLE WANT THE POLICE TO HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THEY CAN POSSIBLY GET TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. BUT THERE HAS BEEN REPORTS UPON REPORTS OF FLOCK CAMERAS ACTUALLY BEING HACKED INTO, AND EVEN THE LIVE FEED BEING UPLOADED TO THE PUBLIC. SO THIS QUESTION IS REALLY ABOUT, AS MY FATHER SAID, LIBERTY AND WHERE WE CAN STAND WITH THE FUTURE. AND I WILL JUST SAY, AS SOMEBODY WHO FREQUENTS LIBERTY HILL AND THE SURROUNDING AREA, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I FEEL SAFE, BUT I DO NOT NEED TO BE WATCHED. THERE'S ALSO BEEN STUDIES THAT PEOPLE COMMIT CRIMES EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIVES. YOU GO SLIGHTLY OVER THE SPEED LIMIT OR YOU LET A REGISTRATION LAPSE. AND WE LIVE ON EGGSHELLS AND THIS IS WHAT PUTS US ON. [00:50:01] IT PUTS US ON EGGSHELLS, AND WE JUST CANNOT BE SAFE AND COMFORTABLE IN OUR OWN COMMUNITIES. IF WE KNOW WE'RE CONSTANTLY BEING WATCHED AND WE HAVE TO WALK ON EGGSHELLS. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. [5) CONSENT AGENDA] I WOULD LIKE TO PULL CONSENT AGENDA ITEM FIVE D. DO WE HAVE A MOTION. MAYOR I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AGENDA ITEM FIVE D. I'LL SECOND. MOTION'S MADE AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? SEVEN ZERO. MOTION PASSES. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH ITEM FIVE D. I ASKED THIS TO BE PULLED. [5) D) Discussion and consideration of possible action on a Professional Services Agreement with Pape-Dawson Engineers in the amount of $5,904,143.00 for Owner Representative and] JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION FROM OUR. FROM OUR CITY ABOUT JUST THE WORDING OF IT. YOU KNOW, YOU READ THIS SOMETIMES AND YOU'RE LIKE, WHAT'S HAPPENING? WE KNOW WE HAVE A WATER PROBLEM HERE. SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD. ONE THING I KNOW THAT WE ARE VERY VIGILANT ABOUT, ABOUT THIS COUNCIL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE AS MUCH INFORMATION THAT WE CAN TO THE PUBLIC FOR UNDERSTANDING. AND THEN ALSO WE OURSELVES HAVE THE INFORMATION. SO BRANDON PRITCHETT OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER WHO LOVES WATER AND WASTEWATER, AS WE HAVE FOUND OUT. CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE US AN EXPLANATION OF FIVE D, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT WITH CONSOLIDATED WATER FOR WHOLESALE WATER SERVICES AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. I ABSOLUTELY CAN I WILL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE. SO SO TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY SO THE CITY HAS OPERATED OFF OF WHOLESALING WATER THROUGH FIRE HYDRANT METERS, WHICH IS NOT NORMALLY HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT FOR WHOLESALE PROVIDERS. SO WHEN WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS, WE'RE LIKE, OH NO, NORMALLY IF YOU'RE DOING THIS, YOU'RE PROVIDING WATER OUTSIDE OF YOUR CCN, EVEN ON SMALL VOLUME BASIS TO AN OUTSIDE AGENCY. YOU DO THAT THROUGH A WHOLESALE CONTRACT. CITY HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR MANY YEARS SO MANY YEARS. AND OUR INTENT WITH THIS IS TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS SOME AGREEMENT IN PLACE FOR THIS. AGAIN, THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LOT LONGER THAN ALL OF US PROBABLY CAN REMEMBER. BUT THAT WAY IT CODIFIES IT. SO THAT WAY IF TC OR PUC COMES IN, SO TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY OR THE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION COMES IN AND ASKS US WHO ARE WE SELLING OUR WATER TO? BECAUSE THAT IS A QUESTION. WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHO THAT'S GOING TO. AND GOING OUTSIDE OF OUR WATER CAN. AND SO THIS AGREEMENT KIND OF CODIFIES THAT PUTS IT ON A THREE YEAR TERM AND ALLOWS US TO BE VERY CLEAR WITH WHERE THIS WATER IS COMING FROM. THE WATER ITSELF IS A PRETTY, I WOULD SAY, A NOT DE MINIMIS. EVERY WATER IS OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY. BUT THE, THE WATER ITSELF IS THE MAX IS 100,000 GALLONS A MONTH. SO TO GIVE YOU CONTEXT FOR THAT, ON AN AVERAGE MONTH, THAT'S ABOUT TEN HOMES. AND SO THAT'S THE MAXIMUM THAT THEY CAN USE IN A GIVEN MONTH. IT'S PROBABLY LESS THAN 20,000 GALLONS A MONTH AT THAT. AND THE, THE WAY THAT THIS GENTLEMAN'S BUSINESS WORKS IS THEY, FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE PRIVATE WELLS, WELLS GET THEIR WELLS GO DOWN. AND HE PROVIDES A SERVICE THROUGH HIS TREATMENT BUSINESS. HE IS HIS OWN BUSINESS, HIS OWN LICENSE THAT PROVIDES THAT WATER TO PEOPLE THAT RUN LOW ON WATER LIKE THEIR WELL WENT DOWN, AND THEY NEED WATER FOR A FEW DAYS IN ORDER TO GET THEIR WELL FIXED. SO THIS FORMALIZES, IT MAKES SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR WITH BOTH PUC AND SEEK TO PREVENT ANY TYPE OF FUTURE. NOT SAYING THERE WOULD BE ANY KIND OF REGULATORY ISSUES, BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE IN OUR FUTURE GOING FORWARD. BUT THAT'S THE GENERAL HISTORY BEHIND THIS. AGAIN, WE'RE WE DON'T SEE ANY CONCERN WITH THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT THEY'RE USING. AGAIN, THE CITY HAS BEEN USING THIS THROUGH THEIR WATER SYSTEM FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME. SO THERE'S NOT ANYTHING THAT PUTS THE WATER SYSTEM AT RISK OR ANYTHING THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT. AND THIS BACK DATES ANYONE HERE IN THIS ROOM. AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE GONE THROUGH SOME OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS JUST REALLY GETTING THE CITY IN A SENSE, OUR ORDINANCES AND EVERYTHING CLEANED UP. AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE LITTLE LAST MINUTE ITEMS WE FOUND OUT. SO I WANT TO THANK THE NEW ADMINISTRATION AND THE TEAM THAT YOU ALL HAVE THIS COUNCIL. THANKS YOU GUYS FOR MAKING SURE THAT THIS GOT TO US. SO WITH THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? AND IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO DEFER THE APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT WITH CONSOLIDATED WATER FOR WHOLESALE WATER SERVICES AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. SECOND. OKAY. MOTION IS MADE AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? SEVEN ZERO. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BRANDON. ALL RIGHT. NOW WE MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA ITEM SIX, A DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CITY'S USE K ONE SECOND. [6) REGULAR AGENDA] DID WE APPROVE THE REST OF THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES WE DID. THAT WAS THE OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY. DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE CITY'S USE OF FLOCK SAFETY LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION CAMERAS. [00:55:05] WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START OFF BY THOMAS HUNTER, OUR CITY MANAGER, AND THEN I WILL ADD A FEW FEW INFORMATION IF NEEDED AFTER THAT, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION TO COUNCIL. COUNCIL. THIS ITEM WAS REQUESTED AND DIRECTED BY COUNCIL FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AS A FOLLOW UP TO OUR LAST MEETING. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO TODAY. THANKS. AS YOU GUYS KNOW THE LAST MEETING, IT WAS INTENTIONAL TO SAY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM BECAUSE WE ALL WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION, NOT JUST FROM OUR POLICE CHIEF, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US. WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. EVEN WHEN PEOPLE GET PULLED OVER, IT IS BECAUSE OUR OFFICERS THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE TOP OF THE LINE AND AND I WANT TO THANK THEM. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST SHARE WITH US HOW IT'S IMPACTING THEM. IS IT? AND AND GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK. WE ALSO ASKED FOR THE FLOCK JUST TO HAVE A REPRESENTATION. WHY NOT? WE ALWAYS KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THEY'RE GOING TO OF COURSE BE BIAS. BUT WE'RE, WE'RE SMART BACK HERE. WE CAN, WE CAN DISCERN THAT AT TIMES. SO AND THE OTHER THING IS TO REALLY GIVE OUR COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TO SHARE, MAYBE NOT JUST ONCE, BUT MAYBE TWICE BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE SOMETIMES A LITTLE LAG IN GETTING INFORMATION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. AND NOT EVERYONE'S OUT AT HOME ON A SUNDAY MORNING OR SUNDAY NIGHT LOOKING AND THINKING, LET ME GO LOOK AT MY COUNCIL AGENDA FOR THIS WEEK. IN FACT, THAT'S USUALLY THE LAST THING WE'RE THINKING ABOUT BECAUSE WE ARE SO EXTREMELY BUSY IN THIS LIFE UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS AND NOW WE'RE IMPACTED AND NOW WE WANT TO SOME INFORMATION. SO THAT WAS THE INTENT FROM THIS COUNCIL TO MAKE IT GO IN THIS ORDER. I WANTED TO BE CLEAR AND EXPLAINING THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME INFORMATION OUT IN SOCIAL MEDIA THAT HASN'T BEEN 100% ACCURATE. AND I WANTED TO CLEAR THAT UP. WITH THAT SAID, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER THINGS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR IS THAT IN JULY 2024, A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER ASKED THAT THE FLOCK CAMERAS BE PUT WITHIN THE BUDGET AND THAT YOU CAN THE PUBLIC MEETING, YOU CAN GO AND LOOK AT THAT. AND THEN IN DECEMBER 11TH OF 2024, THERE WAS AN ILA. AND THAT WAS A PUBLIC MEETING AND THAT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED MEETING OUR AGENDA ITEM A FEW MONTHS SINCE THEN, WE HAVEN'T HAD THEM UP UNTIL A FEW MONTHS AGO. WITH THAT ALL SAID, SAFETY IS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING HOW I THINK IF YOU SELL ANYTHING ON SAFETY, IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE TOP OF THE LINE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL SAY YES, AND SOMETIMES YOU JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION AT THE BEGINNING WHEN SOMETHING IS NEW AND IT STARTS UNTIL IT'S IMPLEMENTED AND YOU SEE HOW IT IMPACTS AND YOU HAVE SOME REASONABLE TIME TO SEE, IS THIS THE BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY? WHAT'S RIGHT FOR LIBERTY HILL IS NOT GOING TO BE RIGHT FOR EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY. AND WE DON'T MAKE DECISIONS THAT WAY. WE MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON OUR COMMUNITY. WE KNOW WE ARE LIBERTY HILL. WE KNOW THAT WE ARE UNIQUE, OUR CITIZENS ARE UNIQUE, AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. AND WE REPRESENT YOU. WE REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF LIBERTY HILL. WE DO HAVE OUR OWN SHARED INDIVIDUAL OPINIONS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS, IT'S NOT BASED ON SOLELY WHAT WE THINK, BUT ALSO WHAT THIS COMMUNITY IS WANTING. SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO SHOWED UP. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE COMMENT THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. PUBLIC SPEAKING FOR MANY IS A VERY IS UNCOMFORTABLE. AND I WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO CAME TONIGHT TO SHARE. IT'S VERY VALUABLE FOR US TO HEAR YOU AND TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER TO SHARE WHATEVER THEY WOULD IF THEY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS. AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FOR A VOTE. COUNCIL MEMBER THAYER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO START AT THAT END AND WE'LL MOVE TO THE RIGHT. SURE. ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT AND SORT OF SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SAID, IS THAT WE ARE REPRESENTATIVES AND STEWARDS OF THE PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW THAT MY OWN PERSONAL FEELINGS AND OPINIONS MATTER AS MUCH AS I'M A SINGULAR PERSON. SO? SO EVERYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS ARE MORE MORE AT HEART AND SOMETHING I TAKE MUCH MORE SERIOUSLY IN THIS ROLE. I JUST WANT TO THANK THOSE OF YOU WHO SHARED PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY. I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE REACHED OUT TO US SINCE THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND HAVE SINCE DECEMBER. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION, I THINK, THAT WE'VE ALL HAD, MAYBE PRIVATELY AND SEPARATELY WITH FOLKS WHO ARE REACHING OUT. AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT, CONTINUE DOING SO. CONTINUE SPEAKING YOUR THOUGHTS PRIVATELY OR PUBLICLY IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SO PUBLICLY. I APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVES BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE DETERMINE AND HOW WE GOVERN. AND I THINK FOR MYSELF, I ABSOLUTELY WANT TO CHAMPION THE FOLKS WHO'VE SHARED A LOT HERE TODAY AND IN THE PAST AND [01:00:09] ENCOURAGE MUCH MORE DIALOG, BUT WANT TO SAY I'M HESITANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT CONTRACT MOVING FORWARD. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF ECHO WHAT YOU SAID. YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING AND TALKING. I MISSED LAST MEETING. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT YES, YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOMETIMES IT SEEMS LIKE WE DON'T HEAR, BUT WE DO HEAR EVERY WORD THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF THOUGHT AND, YOU KNOW, TO DO WHAT WE DO. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR, YOU KNOW, COMING OUT HERE AND TALKING AND. I TO APPRECIATE ALL THE EMAILS AND COMMENTS AND YOUR INPUT. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT MY VOTE TONIGHT IS NO WAY INTENDED TO EVER CONVEY ANY MISTRUST IN OUR POLICE CHIEF AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. MY CONCERN IS THAT, AS WE HAVE SEEN, EVEN AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY'RE STARTING TO PREEMPT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND EVEN THOSE OF US WITH HOME RULE CHARTERS AND A. AND A RESULT, I FEAR THAT WHILE WE MAY HAVE AN AGREEMENT. IF WE KEEP IT WITH DATA THAT BELONGS IN IS CONTROLLED BY US, THERE IS ALWAYS A POTENTIAL FOR THE CITY TO BE PREEMPTED AND THAT DATA TAKEN TO A HIGHER LEVEL. SO AS A RESULT, MY CONCERN IS THAT DATA COULD BE PULLED INTO A BROADER MASS SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM WHERE WE NO LONGER CAN ENSURE IT IS USED FOR THE PURPOSE AND ONLY THE PURPOSES OF INVESTIGATING SPECIFIC CASES. THEREFORE, IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THE GOOD IN THIS TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN HIGHLIGHTED BY SOME. CAN PROVIDE IN THE RIGHT HANDS OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. I FEAR THAT IT'S OUTWEIGHED BY THE HARM IT PERMITS IN THE WRONG HANDS. THANK YOU. I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER TODAY. AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE VOTED TO REPRESENT Y'ALL. AND SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT, FOR SENDING US EMAILS. BRETT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHOWING UP SINCE MAY CONSISTENTLY IN SPEAKING ON IT AND JUST CONTINUING TO TALK ABOUT IT. ONE THING THAT I ALWAYS WEIGH WITH DECISIONS LIKE THIS IS THERE'S INTENTION AND THERE'S PERCEPTION, REALITY. AND WHEN ALL OF THIS WAS COMING UP AND ACTUALLY, BRETT, WHEN YOU SPOKE ON IT, ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES I ACTUALLY WENT AND LISTENED TO A PODCAST FROM THE CEO OF FLOCK TO HEAR HIS INTENT BEHIND THE PRODUCT THAT HE CREATED. AND AGAIN, THINGS CAN HAVE REALLY GOOD INTENTIONS. AND THEN ONE PERSON CAN GET A HOLD OF IT AND TURN IT COMPLETELY UPSIDE DOWN. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE. AND WE'VE SEEN IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN. SO THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR SPEAKING OUT ON ALL OF IT. SO WE SEE A WARNING IN FIRST SAMUEL EIGHT. THIS IS MY NATURE. SO I HAVE TO SPEAK THROUGH SCRIPTURE. SAMUEL WARNS THE PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT CONCENTRATED HUMAN AUTHORITY CAN EVENTUALLY BECOME. HIS WARNING WASN'T SIMPLY ABOUT WHETHER THE FIRST PERSON RECEIVING THAT AUTHORITY HAD GOOD INTENTIONS. IT WAS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY WERE CHOOSING TO HAND OVER. AND MY CONCERN IS DEFINITELY NOT WITH OUR WONDERFUL POLICE OFFICERS IN LIBERTY HILL. MY QUESTION IS WHAT POWER ARE WE CREATING FOR WHOEVER SITS IN THE CHAIR NEXT? TECHNOLOGY MAKES IT VERY EASY FOR WE CAN TO QUIETLY BECOME. WE DO. AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME CAPABILITIES. GOVERNMENT IS BETTER OFF SIMPLY NOT POSSESSING AND POSSESSING THEM AND PROMISING CITIZENS. THEY'LL ALWAYS BE USED APPROPRIATELY. I WON'T SPEAK TOO MUCH. I GAVE A SPEECH LAST TIME. SO MOST OF YOU KNOW MY THOUGHTS ALREADY. MY SON IN LAW'S A POLICEMAN. EXCUSE ME FOR GEORGETOWN. AND HE WANTS TO FLY CAMERAS BECAUSE OF WHAT IT DOES. AND WE KNOW THAT CRIME WILL NECESSARILY INCREASE POTENTIALLY. SO WE DISAGREE. AND I SAID WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE WE'D RATHER SEND A HUNDRED GUILTY PEOPLE, SET THEM FREE. THAN ONE PERSON SPENT A DAY IN JAIL. SO OUR LAWS ARE ALWAYS ON THE SIDE OF FREEDOM, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHERE I LEAN. AND SOMEBODY SAID IT BEFORE THE GOOD INTENTIONS. WE KNOW ABOUT THE I THINK THE PHRASE IS HELL IS THERE'S A DOOR TO HELL, BUT IT'S PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS. SO, CHIEF, I THINK YOU GUYS DO A TREMENDOUS JOB. IN FACT, YOU GUYS STOPPED MY DAUGHTER ABOUT A FEW WEEKS AGO, GOING TOO FAST IN AN AREA, AND THEY WERE VERY PLEASANT TO THEM, LIKE YOU GUYS ALWAYS ARE. AND THE CHIEF KNOWS IT'S BEEN AROUND LIKE I HAVE THAT THEY'VE DONE THEIR WORK BEFORE THIS TIME WITHOUT THE CAMERAS AND THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO THE GREAT JOB THAT THEY WILL WITHOUT THE CAMERAS. SO YOU CAN, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY. AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOU COMING OUT TO SPEAK. [01:05:05] IT'S BEEN SAID HERE. WE APPRECIATE, WE LISTEN TO YOU. WE READ THOSE EMAILS EVEN IF WE DON'T REPLY. SO YOUR VOICE IS IMPORTANT TO US. YOU ARE? THANK YOU. ONE THING I DEFINITELY WANT TO SAY IS WE KEEP USING THE WORD FLOCK. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FLOCK IS JUST THE COMPANY. THERE'S OTHERS. IT'S REALLY THE WORD SURVEILLANCE THAT WE NEED TO. IF IT'S SURVEILLANCE, THEN IT'S ALL SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS, WHETHER IT'S FLOCK OR ANOTHER COMPANY THAT DOES THE SAME THING. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE. WHENEVER WE'RE LISTENING TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS OR WHEN EVEN PEOPLE ARE TALKING THAT, THAT THEY'RE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THEIR LANGUAGE WHEN MAKING DECISIONS. MAYOR, I MOVE TO TERMINATE THE FLOCK AGREEMENT AND ENSURE IT IS NOT RENEWED IN OCTOBER AND TO IMMEDIATELY REMOVE ALL CAMERAS UNDER OUR JURISDICTION AND TO ENSURE WE ARE NOT USING ANY TECHNOLOGY IN THE FUTURE FOR MASS SURVEILLANCE. AND I'LL SECOND THAT. MOTIONS MADE AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR. SEVEN. ZERO. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR INVOLVEMENT. ALL RIGHT. ITEM SIX BE DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH LOCHNER AND COMPANY. EGIS EGIS EGIS COMPANY AND THE AMOUNT OF $842,075.93 FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE A C WATER LINE REPLACEMENT. THIS IS OUR DOWNTOWN WATER LINE UPGRADE AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. THIS IS GOING TO BE LED BY OUR CITY ENGINEER, ELIZABETH HOFT. HI, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING. I HOPE YOU'RE ALL DOING WELL. SO DO I HAVE I DO HAVE THE CLICKER, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS PROJECT. SO I, I KNOW THE TITLE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING. WE HAVE THE DOWNTOWN WATERLINE UPGRADES AND WATERLINE REPLACEMENT TITLES BOTH ON THERE. SO THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE SORT OF A CONTINUATION OF THE AC WATERLINE REPLACEMENT PROJECT, BUT THERE ARE MORE UPGRADES THAT NEED TO BE PERFORMED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO THE WATER SYSTEM THAT AREN'T EXCLUSIVE TO AC WATERLINE REPLACEMENT. SO AC IS ASBESTOS CEMENT. IF YOU ALL ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PIPE MATERIAL. SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ISSUES WITH AGING PIPE MATERIALS SUCH AS AC PIPE CAPACITY AND FIRE FLOW IN THE WATER SYSTEM IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL WATER SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE WASHER WATER MASTER PLAN ADOPTED IN 2025. AND SO THIS PROJECT WILL BE A CONTINUATION OF THE AC WATERLINE REPLACEMENT. WE'RE JUST RENAMING IT DOWNTOWN WATERLINE UPGRADES, SO WE CAN MORE FULLY ENCOMPASS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT UPGRADES THAT NEED TO BE MADE, RATHER THAN JUST AC REPLACEMENT. SO THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT IS PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING, WHICH WILL INCLUDE A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION OF THE DOWNTOWN SYSTEM SO WE CAN IDENTIFY ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE. THIS WILL BE USED TO COMPLETE A PHASED IMPROVEMENT IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. SO THE CONSULTANT WILL PROVIDE US A DELIVERABLE OF SORT OF A PLAN OF THE REST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE IN DOWNTOWN. BUT THIS FIRST CONTRACT WILL INCLUDE THE FIRST PHASE OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS SO WE CAN GET SOME IMPROVEMENTS UNDERWAY QUICKER. SO THIS WILL INCLUDE THE FINAL DESIGN FOR THE FIRST PHASE IDENTIFIED IN THE IMPROVEMENTS. AND THAT FINAL DESIGN DELIVERABLE IS FALL OF 2027 WITH CONSTRUCTION STARTING IN WINTER OF 2028. JUST TO NOTE FUTURE SCOPE THAT WILL BRING TO YOU ALL ONCE WE'RE CLOSER TO CONSTRUCTION WILL BE FOR CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS TESTING RELATED TO THE PROJECT. I JUST WANTED TO ZOOM IN ON THE PICTURE A LITTLE BIT HERE FOR YOU. SO ALL THE WATER LINES THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE WILL BE WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS PROJECT AND BROUGHT THROUGH FULL ENGINEERING DESIGN WITH ALL THE AREAS IN GREEN WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATION TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS DOWNTOWN. SO THE PROJECT WAS BUDGETED IN THE FY 26 CIP PLAN UNDER THE AC WATERLINE REPLACEMENT PROJECT. YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEW CIP PLAN FOR 2027 THAT IT'S RENAMED DOWNTOWN WATERLINE IMPROVEMENTS. JUST SO YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT CHANGE, AND THEN IT WILL FURTHER REFINE THE OVERALL BUDGET FOR THE PROJECT. SO THIS ITEM IS SUPPORTED BY THE WATER MASTER PLAN IS AN APPROVED PROJECT IN THE ADOPTED AND PROPOSED CIP PLANS. WE RECOMMEND APPROVING THE PSA WITH LOCHNER TO GET THE ENGINEERING SERVICES WITH THIS PROJECT UNDERWAY. AND I AM HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND SO IS OUR CONSULTANT IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? [01:10:04] I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM SIX B AS PRESENTED AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. I'LL SECOND. MOTIONS MADE AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? SEVEN ZERO. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE GO TO ITEM SIX. C DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH STEVE INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,116,153 FOR OWNER, REPRESENTATIVE AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND INSPECTION SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADVANCED WATER PURIFICATION FACILITY PROJECT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ROBIN MIGA PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. SO THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A CONTRACT WITH STEVE FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. BUT I KIND OF WANT TO GIVE A PROJECT UPDATE PRIOR TO THAT. SO I THINK YOU ALL ARE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT AT THIS POINT, BUT THIS IS OUR AWP PROJECT, WHICH WILL TURN OUR WASTEWATER INTO WATER AND SERVE AS OUR LONG TERM WATER SOURCE FOR THE CITY. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN UNDERWAY FOR SEVERAL YEARS. MANY OF YOU HAVE SUPPORTED IT ALONG THE WAY. IT IS PLANNED TO BE A FACILITY THAT SUPPORT, THAT PRODUCES 5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, OR MGD, WITH THE ABILITY TO EXPAND UP TO TEN. IT WILL TAKE FLOWS FROM SOUTH FORK AND WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE FLOWS FROM THAT NORTH FORK PLANT THAT'S IN SANTA RITA. IF AFTER FOLLOWING FEASIBILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I KIND OF WANT TO SIT ON THIS SLIDE FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS PROJECT FOR LONGER THAN US. AND SO WE HAVE A PROJECT DELIVERY TEAM NOW, WHICH IS THE NEW ENGINEERING TEAM THAT WAS BROUGHT IN HOUSE THIS YEAR. SO WE HAVE OUR CITY ENGINEER, OUR PROJECT MANAGER AND TWO STAFF ENGINEERS THAT HELP US WITH THIS PROJECT. AND THEY FACILITATE REALLY ALL OF THE BEHIND THE SCENES WORK ON THIS. WE ALSO HAVE OUR OPERATIONS TEAM. MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN OUR OPERATIONS TEAM HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS PROJECT THE ENTIRE TIME. JAMES, MATT AND JAKE ARE NEW WATER SUPERINTENDENT, AND WE ALSO COULDN'T DO THIS WITHOUT THE SUPPORT FROM OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM. AND THAT INCLUDES OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AS WELL AS YOU ALL. AND SO THIS IS THE PROJECT TEAM THAT'S BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I WANT YOU TO KNOW WE'RE WE'RE ALL TOGETHER ON THIS. AND ALSO IT INCLUDES OUR FINANCE TEAM DOING PAY APS. IT INCLUDES HR HIRING FOR THESE FACILITIES. IT'S REALLY ALL HANDS ON DECK AND WE'RE ALL KIND OF MOVING TOGETHER. AND SO I REALLY WANT TO FIXATE ON THIS SLIDE ALSO. THIS IS A SLIDE THAT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO SEE EVERY TIME WE BRING A CONTRACT TO YOU OR ANYTIME WE COME TO TALK TO YOU. IT'S GOING TO SHOW YOU THE FULL TIMELINE FOR THIS PROJECT. AND IT'S GOING TO TELL YOU HOW WE'RE MOVING THROUGH THAT AND WHEN WE'RE COMING AND ASKING FOR A NEW PSA FOR SCOPE THAT'S NEEDED FOR THESE PROJECTS. YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE THIS FOR EVERY CIP PROJECT THAT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR THE CITY. BUT FOR THIS ONE, WE'RE IN THAT PHASE WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE LIGHT BLUE. THE PILOT FACILITY IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND TONIGHT WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT OWNER'S REP CONTRACT, WHICH WILL CARRY THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO CONSTRUCTION, ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO FINAL COMPLETION OF THE CONSTRUCTION. AND SO THERE ARE SEVERAL STEPS AFTER THIS, AND THERE'S PROBABLY MANY STEPS THAT AREN'T IDENTIFIED ON THIS TIMELINE FOR YOU. BUT THESE ARE THOSE KEY MILESTONES REALLY KEEPING ON TARGET FOR THAT FINAL COMPLETION IN 2031. AND THAT THE OTHER MAJOR DATE BEING THAT THE, THE PILOT FACILITY WILL HAVE THE TESTING DONE BY THAT JUNE DATE THAT HAS HELD. SO PILOT TESTING IS SLATED TO BEGIN IN THE FALL. THERE ARE PEOPLE SMARTER THAN ME THAT CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. BUT ESSENTIALLY THAT KEY POINT OF THIS IS THIS PILOT. THE TESTING PART OF THIS IS IN COORDINATION WITH TK. AND ONCE TK IS ON BOARD WITH THAT METHOD IS MY UNDERSTANDING, THEN WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. IN THE DESIGN OF THE ACTUAL PLANT. SO THAT IS SLATED TO BE COMPLETED JUNE OF 2027. AND OUR DESIGN CONSULTANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. SO I THINK YOU ALL RECENTLY APPROVED AN OWNER'S REP FOR THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT. BUT JUST TO KIND OF GO OVER WHAT THAT MEANS THEY ACT AS AN EXTENSION OF STAFF. THEY ARE OUR ARM. THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT AND A MASSIVE PROJECT, AND WE REALLY NEED SOMEONE WITH THAT EXPERTISE ON THE DAY TO DAY TO MAKE SURE IT STAYS ON TRACK. THEY ARE PROVIDING THEIR TECHNICAL EXPERTISE ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE ITSELF, THEIR MONITORING SCOPE, SCHEDULE, BUDGET FIGURING OUT THE PROJECT DELIVERY METHODS THAT ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY AND REALLY PROVIDING SUPPORT ALONG THE WAY. AND HONESTLY KEEPING US AHEAD. SO IF SOMETHING COMES UP, THEY SEE IT AHEAD OF US. SO IT REALLY HELPS US KEEP THIS PROJECT ON TRACK. AND WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO PASS THIS OVER TO MOE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT. THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING ROBIN MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. THE SCOPE OF THIS PSA IS JUST FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PILOT FACILITY, NOT THROUGH CONSTRUCTION OF THE FULL FACILITY. SO THE CONSULTANT WILL BE BROUGHT ON BOARD TO HELP US OUT WITH PROJECT MANAGEMENT. [01:15:04] LIKE SHE SAID BEFORE, MANAGING BUDGET SCHEDULE REVIEWING DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT COME UP DURING THE PILOT PHASE OF THE PROJECT. WE'RE ALSO BRINGING THEM ON BOARD TO HELP US WITH ANY POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES FOR BOTH A, W, P, F, AND NORTH FORK, WHETHER THAT BE WIFI OR T, W, D, B, AND THEY'LL ALSO BE AVAILABLE FOR EXTERNAL PROJECT COORDINATION. IF WE HAVE ANY COORDINATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BETWEEN NORTH FORK AND THE PILOT OR ANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE AREA. AND THEN THEY WILL ALSO PROVIDE PILOT PHASE SUPPORT, WHICH INCLUDES LIKE TRACKING PROGRESS DURING THE TESTING PHASE AND THROUGH THE END OF CONSTRUCTION. AS WE'RE WRAPPING UP THIS FALL, ANY SORT OF AGENCY COORDINATION, WE MAY HAVE SUPPORT WITH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, IF THAT'S NEEDED, TECHNICAL REVIEW AND COORDINATION, AND THEN CLOSE OUT SUPPORT OF THE PILOT CONSTRUCTION. THEY WILL ALSO BE INVOLVED WITH THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLANNING AND DESIGN SUPPORT FOR THE FULL. FACILITY, SO THEY'LL HELP ACT AS A TECHNICAL ADVISOR ON THAT PORTION OF THE PROJECT. AND THEY'LL ALSO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT PROJECT DELIVERY METHODS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROJECT AND HELP THE CITY DECIDE WHICH WAY IS THE BEST TO PROCEED FOR THIS PROJECT. SO LIKE I SAID BEFORE, WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING FORWARD A SECOND PHASE OF THE OWNER'S REP CONTRACT IN FALL OF 2027. THIS IS MAINLY JUST FOR THE PILOT PHASE OF THE PROJECT. SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE TIMELINE RIGHT AROUND SUMMER OR FALL OF 2027 IS WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU FOR THE FULL DESIGN, CONTRACTING WITH THE OWNER'S REP. AND THEN THE FISCAL IMPACT, THE OWNER'S REP SERVICES WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE PREVIOUS CIP PLAN, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN ADDED IN THE UPDATED VERSION, SO YOU SHOULD SEE THOSE NUMBERS REFLECTED IN THE UPDATED CIP. WE RECOMMEND TO APPROVE THE PSA WITH STV FOR THE OWNER'S REP SERVICES. I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND SO IS STV. IF YOU'LL HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR SERVICES FOR THIS CONTRACT. YEAH. AND THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT BECAUSE IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE PACKET, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE 2026 CIP BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT YET APPROVED THE 2027, WHICH IS ON THE AGENDA LATER TONIGHT. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M HAPPY TO START US SEEING IN THE 2027 CIP, THE CONTINUED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CIP. THANK YOU, JOSH, AND YOUR TEAM TOO, THAT WE'RE SEEING IT, BUT IT IS ANOTHER 100 MILLION MORE. BUT THE THING IS, IS THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE TOTAL COST OF A PROJECT NOW, NOT JUST SEEING IT PIECEMEAL AND SAY, OH, WELL, BECAUSE YOU'VE INVESTED THIS, NOW YOU NEED TO INVEST THIS. SO I THANK THE STAFF FOR STARTING TO SHOW US THE TOTAL PICTURE OF EVERYTHING. AND AND IT IS INCLUDED IN OUR 2027 CIP, AS YOU'VE NOTED. SO AGAIN, GOOD JOB IN GETTING ALL THAT DONE. AND I TOTALLY SUPPORT FOR ME, BRINGING IN SOMEBODY WITH THIS KIND OF SCALE OF A PROJECT, THE EXPERTISE TO BE OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT, BASICALLY. YEAH. A QUICK QUESTION ON THOSE PICTURES. ARE THOSE REAL PICTURES? WHAT'S THE THE ONES THAT WE HAD. RIGHT. YES. THESE ARE PICTURES OF THE PILOT FACILITY. THAT'S CORRECT. ON THE RIGHT AND THAT'S ON THE LEFT IS ALREADY WHERE IT'S AT OR THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE. THE PROJECT OR THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT WAS FROM THIS WEEK. AND THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, OR AT LEAST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM SIX C AS PRESENTED AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. I'LL SECOND. MOTIONS BEING SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? SEVEN ZERO. MOTION PASSES. OKAY, MOVING TO ITEM SIX. DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH DAWSON ENGINEERS AND THE AMOUNT OF $5,904,143 FOR OWNER REPRESENTATION AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND INSPECTION SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE NORTH FORK WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT PROJECT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. ROBIN. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ROBIN. MIGA. SO YOU ALL ARE GOING TO GET USED TO ME PRESENTING SOME PROJECT UPDATES TONIGHT. ON THIS ONE, I WILL GO AHEAD AND NOTE ON THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S READY TO GO UNDER CONSTRUCTION PRETTY SOON. SO WE'LL TALK THROUGH THE DIFFERENCES IN THE SCOPE FROM STV AND THIS THIS CONTRACT THAT'S PROPOSED. SO HERE'S A SUMMARY OF THE OVERALL PROJECT. UNLIKE BRANDON I CANNOT TALK TO YOU ABOUT WASTEWATER ALL DAY. BUT I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST. SO THIS IS THE NORTH FORK WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. IT HAS BEEN A PART OF THE SANTA RITA DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. IT HAS GONE THROUGH SEVERAL ITERATIONS, BUT STAFF IS FINALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT. THIS IS A MAP ON YOUR RIGHT OF THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF WHAT WILL COME OFFLINE WITH THIS PLANT. [01:20:04] SO CURRENTLY THAT AREA IS FLOWING TO OUR SOUTH FORK PLANT. AND ONCE THIS PLANT IS ONLINE, THEN ALL OF THOSE FLOWS THAT ARE COMING FROM THOSE SUBDIVISIONS AND THOSE LIFT STATIONS. AND THIS DOES NOT I DON'T THINK IT ENCOMPASSES ALL THE LIFT STATIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO EVENTUALLY COME OFFLINE, BUT THEN THOSE LOWS WOULD BE FREED UP IN OUR SOUTH FORK WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, AND THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT TO ACTUALLY OPEN UP FOR THAT PLANT ITSELF AS WELL. IT IS A PROPOSED 1.4 MGD PLANT WITH THE ABILITY TO EXPAND TO 4.2. AND AS MENTIONED, THAT'S AN APPROXIMATE BOUNDARY OF WHAT WILL COME OFFLINE. AGAIN, THIS IS OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT IS WORKING ON THIS. WE HAVE THE PROJECT DELIVERY TEAM. WE HAVE OUR OPERATIONS STAFF WHO WILL ULTIMATELY TAKE THIS PROJECT ON FOR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, AND THEN THE SUPPORT OF OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AS WELL AS YOU ALL GETTING THIS PROJECT THROUGH. THIS IS THE TIMELINE THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE FROM ME. SO WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, I THINK IT ACTUALLY STARTED DESIGN IN 2022, BUT FULL WAS DONE IN 2023 BY OUR CITY ENGINEER WHO WAS PREVIOUSLY HERE A COUPLE AGO, I GUESS. AND THEN IT WAS REDESIGNED. THERE WAS A PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING THAT WAS DONE BY GARVER IN 2025. AND THEN THAT FULL COMPLETED DESIGN WAS DONE JUST LAST MONTH. IT IS CURRENTLY ADVERTISED FOR CONSTRUCTION AND IS SLATED TO CLOSE OCTOBER 15TH. TONIGHT WE ARE BEFORE YOU FOR THE OWNER'S REP SUPPORT FOR CARRYING THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO CONSTRUCTION. I GUESS SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T MENTION ON THE STV CONTRACT, AS THEY ARE ALSO WORKING ON THE FINANCE COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT. AND SO A LOT OF THAT STUFF WILL BE GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND WITH SUPPORT FROM THAT CONSULTANT AS WELL, JUST TO ENSURE WE GET ALL OF THAT SORTED. AND THEN CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO START IN THE FALL WITH THAT FINAL COMPLETION DATE BEING SUMMER OF 2029, WHICH IS THE SCHEDULE THAT WE'VE HELD TO. THE TOP PART IS JUST AN ELEVATION FROM THOSE APPROVED DESIGN PLANS OF THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING. THERE ARE A LOT OF ANCILLARY BUILDINGS ON THIS PROPERTY, AND WE GO TO A SITE PLAN. AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING THAT THIS PROPERTY DOES. IT TREATS WASTEWATER. IT TAKES ACCESS FROM RONALD REAGAN. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO TOWER ROAD IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. IT'S ACTUALLY THIS IS NOT LOOKING PLAN NORTH, BUT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF PROPERTY, THERE'S A STREET IN SANTA RITA CALLED TOWER ROAD. AND THEN ANOTHER STREET THAT'S BEEN CONSTRUCTED AND WE WILL TAKE ACCESS FROM THAT IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I'M MOVING ON. THIS IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THAT. THE SUBDIVISION THAT IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT IS ACTUALLY NOT UNDER CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY, OR THE ROADS ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED, BUT THERE'S NO HOMES. AND SO WE'VE BEEN IN COORDINATION WITH THIS PROJECT FOR QUITE A WHILE. SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER TO MOE FOR THE SCOPE OF THIS. YEAH. SO AS ROBIN MENTIONED, THE SCOPE OF THIS CONTRACT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE WITH STEVE, BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE OF THE PROJECT. SO THE SCOPE FOR DAWSON IS MORE FOCUSED ON THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES THAT GO ALONG WITH THIS PROJECT. SO THEY WILL BE THERE TO HELP US WITH PROJECT MANAGEMENT, SIMILAR TO THE OTHER SCOPE AND HELP WITH KICKOFF MEETINGS, PROJECT STATUS REPORTS, REVIEWING PAYOFFS, THAT KIND OF THING. AND THEY WILL ALSO HELP US ESTABLISH LIKE A RISK MANAGEMENT MATRIX, TO UNDERSTAND THE RISKS THAT WE ARE TAKING ON WITH THE PROJECT AND HOW TO MITIGATE THOSE RISKS THROUGHOUT CONSTRUCTION. AND THEN THE MAIN SCOPE THAT THEY WILL BE PERFORMING FOR THIS PROJECT IS CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND INSPECTION, SO THEY WILL BE ON SITE TO KEEP TRACK OF THE CONTRACTOR, HOW THEY'RE PROGRESSING, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS BEING CONSTRUCTED PROPERLY AND PER STANDARDS AND SPECS, SO THEY WILL BE THERE TO BE EYES AND EARS IN THE FIELD FOR US WHEN WE CAN'T BE THERE. SO THEY WILL HELP US MITIGATE PROJECT THREATS AND ADMINISTER CONSTRUCTION. THE 2026 CIP ALSO DID NOT ACCOUNT FOR ANY OWNER'S REP SERVICES, BUT HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE 2027 VERSION. SO WE RECOMMEND TO APPROVE THE PSA WITH PIP DAWSON. AND FOR THE SERVICES PRESENTED TODAY, I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND SO ARE THEY, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM ITEM SIX D AS PRESENTED AND AUTHORIZE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. I'LL SECOND. MOTION'S MADE AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? SEVEN ZERO. MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. STATE YOUR NAME. AND ADDRESS. NOW. SIX E DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-O-021. [01:25:03] CONDITIONALLY APPROVING THE JEFF'S AUTO BODY SITE PLAN AND UTILITY SERVICE REQUEST FOR APPROXIMATELY 2.1 ACRES. GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE EASTERN CORNER OF BEAVERS ROAD AND STATE HIGHWAY 29 AT. ADDRESSED AS 100 BEAVERS ROAD AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY PROVIDED WATER SERVICE. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ROBIN. PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. THIS IS A UTILITY SERVICE REQUEST. SO BASED ON OUR ORDINANCES, WHEN A UTILITY EVALUATION COMES BACK AND STATES THAT THERE WE DO NOT MEET TC STANDARDS FOR WATER CAPACITY. THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT ORDINANCE TO MAKE THAT REQUEST THROUGH YOU ALL. AND SO THIS IS THE ITEM THAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY. SO THIS IS FOR JEFF'S AUTO BODY. IT'S LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF BEAVER'S ROAD AND ON THE NORTH END OF STATE HIGHWAY 29. IT IS FOR A PROPOSED AUTO REPAIR SHOP. IT IS ZONED TO C3. AND THIS PROJECT MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT C3, WHICH MEANS IT MET LANDSCAPING, PARKING, DRAINAGE AND WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE APPROVAL PROCESS WITH US. AND IT IS NOW TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS READY TO BE APPROVED PENDING THIS ACTION SHOULD YOU ALL CHOOSE. SO THIS IS FOR 3.3 LOUIS. BASED ON THEIR UTILITY EVALUATION THERE IS AN EXISTING SIX INCH THAT IS ALONG BEAVER'S THAT HAS ENOUGH CAPACITY WITH THE CAVEAT THAT DURING UTILITY EVALUATION PROCESS WITH OUR CONSULTANT, IT WAS NOTED THAT THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH FIRE FLOW. SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS THEY WILL HAVE TO DESIGN A FIRE TANK, WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN IN COORDINATION WITH THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT TO DO. BUT A PART OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE. THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WILL BE HELD IN THAT TANK IS BASED ON THE ACTUAL SPRINKLER SYSTEM THAT IS INSTALLED IN THAT BUILDING. SO IT'S AN APPROXIMATELY, I'M GOING TO SAY, ROUGHLY 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING. I THINK IT'S A BIT MORE THAN THAT. BUT ESSENTIALLY, ONCE THEY GO THROUGH THAT PHASE WITH THE ESD, WHICH IS DURING THE BUILDING PERMITTING PHASE, NOT DURING THE SITE PLANNING OR PLANNING STAGE, IT WILL DETERMINE THAT EXACT CAPACITY IT'S NEEDED FOR THE FIRE TANK, AND IT WILL GET APPROVED THROUGH THEM. THAT'S NOT EVEN A REVIEW THAT WE DO. AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL PENDING THEN MEETING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. THIS IS THE CRITERIA FROM OUR ORDINANCE. STAFF DID FIND IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUEST BEING CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT IS ONE OF THE PREFERRED OR PRIORITY PROJECTS GIVEN THAT IT IS COMMERCIAL AND WOULD BRING SALES TAX TO THE CITY AND IT IS A LOW DEMAND WATER USER WITH BEING THREE LEVEES. IT IS ALSO LOCATED IN OUR INFILL AND ENHANCED GROWTH DISTRICT IN THE COMP PLAN. THESE ARE THE OTHER TWO CRITERIA AND STAFF DID FOUND IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THAT AS WELL. THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. IT'S OUR LANDSCAPING SHEET. IT JUST SHOWS HOW THEY HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS. THOSE TWO DRIVEWAYS TAKE ACCESS TO 29. THEY DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A DRIVEWAY TO 29. AND THEN THAT SHOWS THE SITE CIRCULATION AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT. SO STAFF IS BRINGING THIS FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION. HELLO. I'M TONY KELLER WITH LINK ARCHITECTURE. I'M THE ARCHITECT WORKING WITH JEFF AND JOE SESSLER ON THEIR NEW FACILITY ON EVERS ROAD. THIS IS JUST A THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE SLIDE SHOW THAT POINTS OUT WHAT ROBIN ALREADY POINTED OUT OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO THERE. BUT A NEW BUILDING THAT'S SITUATED BACK OFF OF 29 WITH OUR DETENTION POND AND EVERYTHING IN FRONT. SO THERE'S A BUFFER BETWEEN OUR BUILDING AND THE HIGHWAY 29 AND PROPOSED STRUCTURE. YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT THERE. NO, NO METAL BUILDING. IT'S ALL GOING TO BE THEY'RE CALLED PANELS, BUT THEY'RE BASICALLY CEMENT PANELS. AND THEN A HIGHLIGHTED BLUE PIECE THAT PICKS UP ON SOME OF THEIR BLUE COLORS FROM WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM IN AUSTIN. I DON'T KNOW, DO I, CAN I? THANK YOU. OKAY. JUST A LITTLE HISTORY. AND THE SETTLERS ARE HERE THAT THEY CAN CERTAINLY TALK. THEY, THEY'RE, THEY LIVE HERE IN LIBERTY HILL. BUT THEY ARE IN AUSTIN. THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR OVER 50 YEARS AND THEY'RE READY TO BE OUT OF AUSTIN. SO THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING UP TO WHERE WHERE THEIR FAMILY IS. I MET A NUMBER OF THEIR EMPLOYEES THERE THAT ARE THERE. THEY'VE ALL BEEN THERE FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE DESIRING TO, TO BRING THAT, THAT ESTABLISHED CLIENTELE THAT ESTABLISHED BUSINESS UP HERE TO LIBERTY HILL AND THEN SERVE THE PEOPLE HERE IN LIBERTY HILL THAT DON'T HAVE TO COME ALL THE WAY INTO AUSTIN ANYMORE. ROBIN ALREADY HIT ON THIS. JUST WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR ON THE UTILITY SIDE OF THINGS. WE'VE ACTUALLY PLOTTED TWO LOTS TOGETHER. SO THE BENEFIT IS, IS THAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY THE NEED FOR ANOTHER LOT THAT WOULD REQUIRE ANOTHER WATER METER. [01:30:05] SO WE'RE, WE'RE REDUCING THAT THAT DRAW. AND IT'S A LOW WATER YIELD. IT'S AUTO BODY REPAIR SHOP. SO IT'S BASICALLY THE OFFICE THAT FUNDAMENTALLY NEEDS WATER. AGAIN, WE TALKED THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT MATRIX. THERE IS A BIG SIDEWALK ALONG 29. SO WE'LL PROBABLY BE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE WITH A SIDEWALK ON. 29 HOPEFULLY MAYBE IT'LL GET USED ONE DAY, BUT IT'S WIDE ENOUGH THAT IT COULD BE USED IN THE FUTURE AND IT WILL ESTABLISH THAT CONNECTION FOR OTHER DEVELOPMENTS EAST AND WEST OF US. AGAIN, THE WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR BASICALLY WITH THE WATER UTILITY IS WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THE FIRE FLOW WITH OUR OWN TANK. SO WE WON'T BE DRAWING ON ANY OF THE FIRE HYDRANTS THERE. WE WORKED WITH THE ESD, WENT THROUGH A PRELIMINARY DESIGN WITH THEM, REVIEWED THE TANK. AND SO THE CONDITIONAL PORTION OF IT IS TO BASICALLY JUST PROVIDE ALL OF THOSE ENGINEERING DETAILS SO THAT EVERYONE CAN BE ASSURED THAT WE MEET BACKFLOW, WE MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SITE PLAN. BUT FIRE FLOW WILL BE ALL ON ON SITE, SO NO, NO EXTRA WATER CAPACITY NEEDED FOR THAT. THEY HAVE 25 EMPLOYEES. I THINK THAT'S 6.5 IS WHAT JEFF TOLD ME THEIR ANNUAL REVENUE IS. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT. BUT THAT WAS HIS ESTIMATE OF WHAT WHAT HE WAS PULLING OUT OF HIS RECORDS FROM TWO YEARS AGO. AND THAT'S IT. I WENT TOO FAR. THANK YOU. I'LL, LET'S OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THEN I'LL READ THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU TAKE A MOTION. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? OKAY. I'LL READ THE CAPTION OF THE ORDINANCE. IT READS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LIBERTY HILL, TEXAS, CONDITIONALLY APPROVING A SITE PLAN AND UTILITY EVALUATION FOR 2024-38-SDP JEFF'S AUTO REPAIR CONDITIONALLY APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF A SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT FOR THE PROJECT IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 6.04 E OF THE CITY OF LIBERTY HILL UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS OF FACT REPEALER SEVERABILITY CLAUSES. NOTICE OF MEETING AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER X-L-021 AS PRESENTED. I'LL SECOND MOTIONS MADE AND SECONDED. ALL IN FAVOR? SEVEN ZERO MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. WE MOVE TO ITEM SIX F PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-O-022. ADOPTING THE CITY OF LIBERTY HILL BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST OF 2026 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2027, APPROPRIATING FUNDS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ADOPTED BUDGET, REPEALING ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AS PRESENTED BY JOSH ARMSTRONG, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCIL, I'M JUST GOING TO START OFF WITH A COUPLE OF BRIEF WORDS. LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER PLACE SIX. I SAID A LOT ON THE BUDGET THE FIRST TIME. AND SO I'M GOING TO KEEP THESE COMMENTS SHORT. I THINK IT'S PRETTY REMARKABLE THAT THE CURRENT CLIMATE THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS LIVE IN IS ONE THAT IS VERY CONSTRAINED AND IT'S CONSTRAINED FOR A LOT OF REASONS. I DON'T KNOW THE LAST TIME ANYBODY WENT TO THE STORE OR GOT A GALLON OF GAS. BUT THINGS ARE INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS ASKED FOR, THOSE THINGS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE AS WELL. SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE, THAT WE KIND OF BATTLE AS A COMMUNITY IS JUST THE SHEER PRICE OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AROUND US. SECONDLY, THOUGH WE LIVE IN THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS, THE GREAT STATE OF TEXAS THAT WAS BUILT BY LOCAL COMMUNITY. AND SOMETIMES NOT EVERYBODY AGREES WITH THAT STATEMENT. I SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN AS WE LOOK AT BUDGETS AND TAX RATES AND WE REALLY THINK ABOUT BUDGET PHILOSOPHY. SO SOME COMMUNITIES, WHEN THEY LOOK AT TAX RATE, THEY THINK, WHAT IS THE NUMBER THAT WE THINK WE CAN GET AWAY WITH? AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH STUFF WE CAN BUILD AND WHAT RESOURCES WE NEED WITHIN THAT NUMBER. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT PHILOSOPHY WILL WILL DRIVE YOU TO INSOLVENCY AND YOU'LL BE A VERY BROKEN COMMUNITY VERY QUICKLY. THE GOOD THING IS THAT WE LIVE IN A COMMUNITY, LIBERTY HILL. THAT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. WE VERY SPECIFICALLY START A CONVERSATION EARLY GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO FEBRUARY WHERE WE ESTABLISHED A CONVERSATION ABOUT GOALS AND PRIORITIES, A CIP PROCESS THAT REALLY TOOK A PERIOD OF MONTHS AND CONSTANT CONVERSATIONS, DIRECTION AND ACTION BY THIS COUNCIL TO SET UP ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO FUND OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEAR PERIOD. WE SPECIFICALLY, THROUGH THE FY 27 BUDGET PROCESS, LOOK AT THOSE FISCAL IMPACTS FOR FY 27. AND THAT WAS OUR TASK TO DO. HOWEVER WHEN WE HAVE UNFUNDED MANDATES, IF YOU WILL SHIFT OF BURDEN, [01:35:08] MAYBE SOME WOULD CALL IT WHERE THE STATE TAKES CERTAIN ACTIONS, CERTAIN ACTIONS, SUCH AS CHANGES TO HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OR VALUATIONS OF PROPERTY CHANGE. IT FORCES COMMUNITIES TO PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET, UNDERSTANDING THAT IF WE DON'T CHANGE OUR REVENUE, TAXES STILL GO UP, TAXES STILL GO UP ON COMMUNITY MEMBERS, EVEN THOUGH OUR REVENUES DON'T CHANGE. AND SO THE TASK THAT IS IN FRONT OF ALL MUNICIPALITIES TODAY IS A SIGNIFICANT ONE. I AM VERY HAPPY WITH THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS PUT INTO THIS BUDGET OVER THE PAST SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT. SOME OF THEM 12 MONTHS. BECAUSE WHAT YOU HAVE IS A BALANCED BUDGET, ONE THAT IS THAT HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE YOU LAST SAW IT. AND ONE THAT IS BALANCED WITH WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF ALL OF THOSE CONSTRAINTS. AND SO I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO IT. I'M ALSO VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM YOU AS COUNCIL. WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS, BEING VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE. AND REALLY JUST TAKING THE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE'RE AT. SO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT ON THAT. AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO TALK ABOUT YOUR BUDGET. THIS IS ONE OF THE FINEST DEPARTMENT'S MOST IMPORTANT TIMES OF THE YEAR, BECAUSE IT KIND OF SETS THE WORKFLOW FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING STARTING OCTOBER 1ST, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW THIS, BUT IT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. YOU HAVE SEEN A MAJORITY OF WHAT I'M GOING TO PUT IN FRONT OF YOU A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW. I DO ACTUALLY HAVE TO COUNTER WITH THE CITY MANAGER SAID I HAVE ACTUALLY MADE TWO CHANGES TO THE BUDGET SINCE THE LAST TIME WE TALKED. WE HAD TO ADD $27,200 TO THE COMMUNITY EVENTS FOR VIDEOGRAPHY. THE, THE NUMBER WAS BASICALLY SHORT BY ZERO. SO WE WENT IN THERE AND WE FIXED THAT. THE OTHER THING THAT I HAD TO DO AFTER ANOTHER MONTH OF PERMANENT REVENUE WAS I HAD TO REDUCE OUR PERMANENT REVENUE BY ABOUT $59,000. OUTSIDE OF THAT, EVERYTHING IS EXACTLY AS IT STANDS. THIS IS KIND OF THE BUDGET STORY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BACK IN AUGUST THAT BIG PURPLE BAR ON THE 2027 LINE IS I KNOW IT LOOKS SCARY, BUT A MAJORITY OF THAT IS YOUR SIP. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. YOU GUYS JUST APPROVED TWO CONTRACTS FOR OWNER'S REP FOR THE TWO BIGGEST PROJECTS IN YOUR SIP. THESE ARE YOUR STRATEGIC GOALS. WE'VE GONE OVER THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES. THERE ARE SOME FANTASTIC GOALS AND THEY MADE THIS BUDGET PROCESS MUCH EASIER FOR STAFF. IT ALLOWED US TO TIE ANYTHING THAT WE ARE DOING NEW BACK TO THESE GOALS, SO THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR VISION OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. THESE ARE SOME OF THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT OVER THE LAST REALLY SIX MONTHS. BUT WITH YOU FOR ABOUT THE LAST SIX WEEKS WE SPENT A GOOD 4 TO 5 WEEK PERIOD COMING THROUGH THE 2026 BUDGET, WE WERE ABLE TO REMOVE $457,000 FROM OUR HISTORIC OPERATIONS TO ENSURE THAT THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING NOW ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT US TO DO. WE'VE PRIORITIZED REOCCURRING EXPENDITURES WITH REOCCURRING REVENUE AND ONE TIME EXPENDITURES WITH ONE TIME REVENUE. WE HAVE OPERATIONAL FUNDING PACKAGES WORTH $875,000. THESE ARE BASED ON THE SERVICE LEVELS THAT HAVE BEEN EITHER LACKING OR SEVERELY NEEDED FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. I DO NOT THINK IT WILL GET US 100% OF THE WAY THERE, BUT IT IS GOING TO MAKE A 100% DIFFERENCE FROM THIS YEAR TO NEXT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM EXTREMELY HAPPY ABOUT IS THE ONE TIME USE OF FUND BALANCE. WE HAVE 1.9 MILLION THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN OBLIGATED BY THIS COUNCIL. FROM THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. THE BIGGEST ONE OF THAT IS THE DOWNTOWN PLAN. I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALL EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT. AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY TO GET TOGETHER TO GET THAT WORKING. AND I AM GLAD THAT IT'S BEING INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. WE ALSO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT THINGS THE UDC ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL, THE MASS MOBILITY PLAN. ALL OF THESE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AND HAVE BEEN BUDGETED FOR OR EVEN STARTED IN OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. THESE ARE ONE TIME EXPENDITURES. AND SO WE HAVE SHIFTED THE COST FROM OPERATIONS TO ONE TIME. THESE ARE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL PLANS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN WHICH IS ONGOING RIGHT NOW. THE ALL OF THESE ARE REALLY ONGOING RIGHT NOW, BUT THIS IS REALLY WHAT IS GOING TO SET THE STAGE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. [01:40:02] PERSONNEL. SO WE HAVE ADDED A TOTAL OF 16 POSITIONS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, FOUR IN THE GENERAL FUND AND EIGHT IN UTILITIES. AND THAT IS THAT IS PROBABLY THE MOST EMPLOYEES WE'VE ADDED IN ONE SINGLE BUDGET YEAR OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS COMBINED. THAT'S AN AMAZING GROWTH. WE'VE ALSO MADE SOME CHANGES TO OUR MEDICAL INSURANCE WHERE WE ARE INCREASING DEPENDENT COVERAGE FROM 20% CURRENTLY UP TO A BARE MINIMUM OF 45%, UP TO 95%, DEPENDING ON WHICH, WHICH PLAN AN EMPLOYEE CHOOSES. AND WE'VE ALSO AND MADE SOME INVESTMENTS IN COMMUNITY EVENTS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE THE FANTASTIC EVENTS THAT EVERYONE LIKES TO ATTEND EVERY YEAR. THIS IS AN OVERALL BUDGET SUMMARY. THE ONLY THING THAT, LIKE I SAID, HAS CHANGED IS THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THIS IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT HAS INCREASED BY $27,200. OUTSIDE OF THAT, EVERYTHING IS EXACTLY HOW IT'S BEEN FOR THE LAST SIX WEEKS. WATER IS MOVING IN A DIRECTION. IT'S SLIGHTLY POSITIVE. IT'S BETTER THAN IT HAS BEEN IN PREVIOUS YEARS. BUT WE ARE STILL ABLE TO ADD TWO NEW EMPLOYEES TO THIS OR I'M SORRY, THIS IS WASTEWATER. LET'S GO. LET'S GO TO WATER. I'M TALKING ABOUT WATER IS GETTING BETTER. IT'S NOT WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, BUT WE ARE STILL ADDING TWO FTES TO THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT. IT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED AND I KNOW MY UTILITY BILLING DEPARTMENT WILL BE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL. NOW LET'S GO BACK TO WASTEWATER. WASTEWATER IS DOING FANTASTIC. IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO FANTASTIC BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF THE LARGEST FUNDS. IT HAS THE MOST USERS AND IT HAS A LOT GOING IN ON IT RIGHT NOW. TWO THINGS THAT YOU APPROVED TONIGHT, BOTH TIED TO THIS. THAT BEING SAID, THESE PROJECTS COULD NOT HAVE BEEN STARTED WITHOUT YOU GUYS IN THE FUTURE OR FROM THE PAST. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT TO THE FUTURE. 2030, 20, 31 IS WHEN OUR CIP IS CURRENTLY SLATED TO BE EXHAUSTED. AS YOU HAVE SEEN, WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE PROJECT SHEETS. MOST TEAM WENT THROUGH THEM AND BROKE OUT ALL OF THOSE COSTS. ADDED THE THINGS THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU TODAY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE GETTING THE MOST ACCURATE PICTURE OF YOUR CIP THAT YOU HAVE EVER SEEN, AND I AM EXTREMELY THANKFUL FOR HER JOINING THIS. AND REALLY REALISTICALLY, A LOT OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE COME IN THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. SEWER IS DOING SOME GREAT THINGS. IT'S THE TINIEST FUN OUT OF THE UTILITY FUNDS. BUT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING ENOUGH TO FUND BALANCE SO THAT WE CAN MEET OUR DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIOS. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT WATER. IT'S MOVING IN A GOOD DIRECTION. THESE ARE YOUR FUNDING PACKAGES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE 2027 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET. THE ONES ON THE LEFT ARE YOUR ONE TIME FUNDING REQUESTS. THE ONES ON YOUR RIGHT ARE FOR YOUR GENERAL FUND. AND THEN THESE ARE YOUR PUBLIC WORKS REQUESTS. NONE OF THESE THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT WE HAD TALKED. SORRY. WENT A LITTLE TOO FAR. THAT IS YOUR FISCAL 2027 BUDGET IN A NUTSHELL. IT IS A BUDGET THAT WE AS STAFF ARE EXTREMELY PROUD OF. I HAD MORE HELP WITH THIS BUDGET THAN I THINK I'VE EVER HAD IN MY ENTIRE 14 CAREER YEARS BUDGETING. I HAVE TO THANK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY WERE THE FIRST DEPARTMENT THAT FINISHED THEIR BUDGET. THEY MADE A LOT OF OF CHANGES THAT WERE VERY POSITIVE. THEY WENT THROUGH IT LINE BY LINE AND THEY WERE THE FIRST ONES DONE. I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO SAY THAT BEFORE. SO YOU GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE. IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE. BUT THE NEXT STEP IS TO OPEN YOUR PUBLIC HEARING. AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT, THEN THAT'S WHEN WE CAN DO THAT. I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 740. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS? ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS? OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 740. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE. IT'S BEEN TREMENDOUS. AND THOMAS TOLD US THAT THE LAST TIME, I THINK IT WAS THE LAST TIME. ALSO FOUND A HALF $1 MILLION IN THE BUDGET BY GOING LINE BY LINE BY LINE THAT WE DIDN'T NEED IN THERE. SO I APPRECIATE THE DETAIL. THIS IS MY SECOND TIME SEEING THE BUDGET COMPARED TO LAST TIME. IT GETS BETTER AND BETTER. AND I APPRECIATE PRO TEM DIANE WILLIAMS FOR HER DETAILING THIS, BECAUSE SHE GETS A LOT OF STUFF THAT I WOULDN'T CATCH, BUT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE WORK AND EFFORT OF THE ENTIRE STAFF AND EVERY DEPARTMENT AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN THIS BUDGET. I FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THIS ONE. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THE THING THAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS IS THAT IN YEARS PAST, SOMETIMES. [01:45:03] AND IT'S REALLY HARD BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT'S COMING NEXT, WHICH IS THE TAX RATE. BUT IS THAT IN YEARS PAST. SO WE WOULD OFTEN SEE, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO RAISE IT HERE, BUT IT'S JUST UNDER THE NO. Y'ALL HAVE DONE A REALISTIC BUDGET. AND SINCE MY TIME COMING ON COUNCIL TIME AND TIME AGAIN, WE KEPT SAYING, TELL US WHAT YOU NEED. JUST TELL US WHAT YOU NEED AND LET US WORRY ABOUT IT. AND SO I'M VERY THANKFUL THAT THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING. AND THE THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT, AND IT GOES ALONG WITH WHAT THOMAS SAID AS WELL, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE SOME THINGS BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, WE CANNOT EXPECT TO DELIVER UPON WHAT WE'VE COMMITTED HERE. AND WE HAVE A LOT TO DELIVER UPON. AND I'M JUST THANKFUL THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING IT AND YOU'RE MOVING AT THE PACE YOU'RE MOVING AT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE LEADERSHIP OF THAT AS WELL. OKAY, WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO READ THE CAPTION OF THE ORDINANCE AND THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LIBERTY HILL, TEXAS, MAKING APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE SUPPORT OF CITY SERVICES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST OF 2026 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027. APPROPRIATING MONEY TO A SINKING FUND TO PAY PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST ON THE CITY'S INDEBTEDNESS AND ENACTING THE MUNICIPAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027 AND 2027. 2026 AND 2027 FUNDING MUNICIPAL PURPOSES. AUTHORIZING EXPENDITURES. PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS OF FACT ENACTMENT, FILING OF BUDGET REPEALER SEVERABILITY. EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROPER NOTICE AND MEETING. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-0022. ADOPTING THE 2026 TO 2027 BUDGET AS PRESENTED. I'LL SECOND IT. WE'RE GOOD OVER THERE. OKAY. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY ELIZABETH AND A SECOND BY TIM. ELIZABETH BROWN AND TIM HENNESSY. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. I WILL CALL THE MEMBERS NAME. AND THEN WE'LL RECORD YOUR VOTE. JAQUETTA THAYER I, MICHAEL HELBING I, DIANE WILLIAMS I ELIZABETH BROWN I LACY SCOTT I TIM HENNESSY I CRYSTAL MANTIA I THE RECORD REFLECTS SEVEN VOTES IN FAVOR AND ZERO VOTES OPPOSED THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX G DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-O-023. LEVYING AD VALOREM TAXES FOR THE USE AND SUPPORT OF THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY OF LIBERTY HILL FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 THROUGH 2027 APPROPRIATION, APPORTIONING, APPORTIONING THE LEVY FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES, ESTABLISHING WHEN TAXES BECOME DUE AND DELINQUENT, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO THIS IS THE SECOND HALF OF THE BIG PROJECT THAT I DO EVERY YEAR. AND I, I KNOW IT CAN BE HARD FOR SOME PEOPLE, BUT I THINK THE EASIEST IS TO JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT THE PROPERTY TAX IS, WHAT IT DOES, AND WHY WE USE IT. SO JUST TO KIND OF AN OVERVIEW, IT STATES THAT DON'T HAVE A PROPERTY TAX GENERALLY HAVE A INCOME TAX, LIKE A STATE INCOME TAX. THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS THAT WE CAN TRY TO OFFSET INCREASING PROPERTY TAX, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS JUST PART OF TEXAS. SO LET'S JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH TRUTH AND TAXATION. THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION AND TAX CODE REQUIRES LOCAL TAXING UNITS TO MAKE TAXPAYERS AWARE OF TAX RATE PROPOSALS AND PROVIDE TAXPAYERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIMIT TAX INCREASES. THE CITY HAS WORKED WITH WILLIAMSON COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR'S OFFICE TO CALCULATE THE RELEVANT RATES THAT ARE SET FORTH BY THE STATE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE THAT ARE. THE FOUR RATES THAT YOU WILL BE SEEING SOON IS THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE. THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, THE DE MINIMIS RATE, AND THE UNUSED INCREMENT RATE. SO THESE ARE 2024, 2025 AND OUR 2026 PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX RATES. IT'S GOT THE TOTAL TAX RATE, THE M AND O RATE, WHICH IS YOUR MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS. AND THEN YOUR INS RATE, WHICH IS YOUR INTEREST IN SINKING OR YOUR DEBT RATE. THE CALCULATED RATES BELOW THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE HARD FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND EVERY TWO YEARS THE LEGISLATURE CHANGES. SO WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT. BUT JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE AT. THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE FOR 2025, WHICH IS OUR CURRENT TAX RATE IS 0.469407 PER $100 VALUATION. [01:50:02] THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE FOR 2026 IS 0.483134, WHICH MEANS IN ORDER TO GET THE SAME REVENUE AS OUR CURRENT YEAR ARE, NO NEW REVENUE RATE WOULD INCREASE ALMOST $0.02. I KNOW THAT IS HARD TO KIND OF WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND ARE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WOULD REQUIRE US TO INCREASE OUR TAX RATE. IT'S WEIRD, BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF HOW THE MATH WORKS. IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER, WE DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF MEETINGS BACK WHERE THE STATE HAS MADE SOME CHANGES ON HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND PERSONAL PROPERTY. AND WHEN YOU CHANGE ONE SIDE OF THE EQUATION, YOU HAVE TO BALANCE IT ON THE OTHER SIDE. AND SO THAT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE RUN INTO NOW THE NEXT RAID ON THERE IS THE VOTER VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE LAST YEAR WAS 0.486071. THIS YEAR IT IS 0.499483. WE HAVE BASED OUR BUDGET AROUND A TAX RATE THAT IS JUST UNDER THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST IS HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT OUR TAX RATE STAYS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE VERSUS HOW DO YOU KEEP IT LOW? IF YOU KEEP IT LOW, YOU DON'T DO ANYTHING. EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE VOTED ON OR THAT YOU GUYS HAVE VOTED ON TONIGHT, WE STOPPED DOING THAT EVEN BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE THINGS WERE UTILITY RELATED. IF YOU GO BACK TO THOSE GIANT TEAMS THAT ROBIN AND MOE SHOWED YOU, HALF OF THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE GENERAL FUND EMPLOYEES. SO IT'S KIND OF BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN. AND SO IN ORDER FOR US TO CONTINUE GOING DOWN THE PATH OF GROWTH, WE HAVE TO BE SMART ABOUT IT. NOW I WILL NEVER TRY TO TAKE OUR TAX RATE ANY HIGHER THAN I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE. AND IF YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW, ANYTIME YOU TRY TO TAKE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE OVER WHAT THE WHAT IT'S SET AT, IT CHANGES THE LAWS OF WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO TO ENSURE THAT IS PASSED. NOW, WE DID NOT CHOOSE THAT RATE TO AVOID JUMPING THROUGH THOSE HOOPS. WE CHOSE THE RATE THAT WE NEEDED BASED ON WHAT A LOT OF OUR OTHER REVENUE STREAMS ARE DOING. AND SO WE DID NOT NEED THE COMPLETE VOTER APPROVAL RATE. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT EVERY YEAR. AND IT IS ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT AS LONG AS WE ARE GROWING A, WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAXIMIZING THAT BY JUST GROWING SMART AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE BALANCING OUR SALES TAX ENTITIES AND OUR PROPERTY TAX RESIDENCES. SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE JUST HAVE TO BE MINDFUL AS WE GO THROUGH. I KNOW THIS IS A VERY HARD DISCUSSION FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT IT'S JUST THE REALITY OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT. THIS IS A FIVE YEAR HISTORY OF YOUR RATE. IT'S THE TOTALS AT THE TOP. YOUR GREEN IS YOUR YOUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION. AND THE BOTTOM IS YOUR INS. YOUR INS RATE HAS ESSENTIALLY STAYED FAIRLY STEADY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. AND WE ARE KEEPING THAT THE SAME THIS YEAR. IT'S YOUR OW RATE THAT HAS SLIGHTLY INCREASED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO JUST CONTINUE TO REMIND YOU IS THAT THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE WOULD STILL REQUIRE US TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE. MR.. YOU HAD ASKED WHAT OUR CURRENT TAX RATE IS. IT IS THE 0.469407. THE THE M AND O IS REALLY THE ONLY THING THAT IS CHANGING THAT IS GOING TO HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE THERE. BUT IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO CHANGE THAT RATE TO 0.48 3134. THIS GRAPH IS KIND OF LIKE THIS ONE, BUT IT'S THE REVENUE. AND THAT'S I DO THINK THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT GRAPH. WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW THOSE RATES ARE ESSENTIALLY VERY CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, BUT THE REVENUE DIFFERENCE IS, IS VASTLY DIFFERENT. AND I THINK THE LAST TWO YEARS KIND OF REALLY SHOW JUST WHAT THE CHANGES IN REVENUE CAME FROM THOSE HOMESTEAD AND PERSONAL PROPERTY CHANGES. THIS IS KIND OF YOUR HISTORICAL REVENUE. IT'S COMBINED FOR YOUR YOUR. THIS IS JUST YOUR SALES TAX. 6 MILLION. 8 MILLION. [01:55:03] 8 MILLION. 8 MILLION. THOSE THINGS SHOULD NOT CONTINUOUSLY LOOK THE SAME IN THOSE LAST THREE BARS. THAT IS WHY IT IS CRUCIAL THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE UTILIZE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE THAT WE NEED, BECAUSE THESE REVENUES ARE CYCLICAL. THEY CHANGE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT. YOUR PROPERTY TAX IS ONE OF THE STEADIEST FORMS OF REVENUE THAT A CITY HAS. IN ORDER TO MEET THE DEMANDS THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE. SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY IS PASSING A PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 0.494268. THAT'S A MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RATE OF 329235 PER $100 VALUATION AND A DEBT SERVICE, OR INS RATE OF 0.165003. 033. THANK YOU SO MUCH. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE JUST TOLD YOU? I HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT'S THE NET DIFFERENCE ROUGHLY FOR THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER BETWEEN LAST YEAR'S TAX BILL AND THIS YEAR'S TAX BILL? $100, $200. HAVE WE CALCULATED I'M JUST CURIOUS. WE DID THAT MATH AT THE LAST MEETING. I, I WANT TO SAY IT WAS $80. I CAN GET THAT NUMBER FOR. WE HAD IT AT THE LAST PRESENTATION. I'LL PULL THAT NUMBER AND I'LL GET IT FOR YOU. I CAN PULL IT UP. YEP. OKAY. PULL IT UP. AND THEN THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THE HOMESTEAD INCREASE IS THAT WHAT IS THE THE ONE THAT HURTS US THE MOST? OR IS IT THE PROPERTY VALUES HAVE CHANGED FROM LAST YEAR OR THIS YEAR? IS THE HOMESTEAD FOR THE. THE STATE INCREASE THAT PULLS AWAY MONEY FROM THE CITIES. SO THEY MADE A. THEY MADE A CHANGE REGARDING PERSONAL PROPERTY. YEAH. AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHANGES. AND THEN WE DO HAVE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS WHEN YOU HIT CERTAIN AGES OR CERTAIN OTHER. YEAH, WE LIKE THOSE. I'M GLAD YOU DO. BUT EVERY TIME THAT WE FREEZE SOMETHING, IT JUST CHANGES THE CALCULUS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S LIKE, THIS IS A COMPLETE BALANCING ACT. SORRY IF I KEEP HITTING THAT. IT'S A COMPLETE BALANCING ACT. AND IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK TO ENSURE THAT IF WE MAKE ONE CHANGE, IT IS NOT DRASTICALLY CHANGING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THE GREAT NEWS IS WE GET EXCITED WHEN THEY PASS THAT LAW. YES, WE'RE GETTING AN INCREASE IN EXEMPTION. AND THEN IT COMES AROUND THIS DOWN TO US AT THE LOWER LEVEL AND WE'RE THE BAD GUYS GOING OOPS, SORRY. YEAH. BUT LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S IT'S US BEING RESPONSIBLE AS WELL TO DO THE RIGHT THING. DID YOU LOOK THAT UP? DID YOU FIND IT? I'M SORRY. WE'RE TRYING. I DO HAVE THAT MATH. IF I JUST NEED TO GO SIT BACK, I CAN. I NEED TO USE CHATGPT OR ANYTHING. I CAN READ THE ORDINANCE IF YOU'D LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. YOU WANT ME TO READ ORDINANCE AND THEN FIND THE NUMBER? OKAY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND READ THE ORDINANCE AS IT READS. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LIBERTY HILL, TEXAS, ADOPTING AN AD VALOREM TAX RATE, LEVYING AD VALOREM TAXES FOR USE IN SUPPORT OF THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE CITY OF LIBERTY HILL, TEXAS, AS MAY BE NECESSARY TO PROMOTE THE GENERAL HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE FOR THE 2026 TO 2027 FISCAL YEAR, PROVIDING FOR APPORTIONING EACH LEVY FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES, REPEALER SEVERABILITY, EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROPER NOTICE AND MEETING. AND WE'RE GOING TO WAIT REALLY QUICK FOR THAT ANSWER TO COUNCIL MEMBER MRS QUESTION. I'M JUST SORRY, I PROBABLY SHOULD NOT MOVE THAT. JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, IN ORDER A RECENT LEGISLATIVE CHANGES, WE YOU HAVE TO DO TWO MOTIONS, ONE FOR THE M AND O AND ONE FOR THE I AND S. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW THERE'S TWO MOTIONS ON THERE THIS YEAR. MAYOR WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNLESS WE REALLY WANT THAT ANSWER PUBLIC, BUT I THINK I THINK IT'S NICE. I STILL CAN'T FIND IT, BUT I DO HAVE IT. OKAY, I'VE GOT IT SOMEWHERE. I WILL EMAIL IT TO ALL OF COUNCIL. OKAY. OKAY. I JUST NEED TO FIND. YEAH, I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE 300 AND SOMETHING. YEAH. SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A BIG 330 WAS THE AVERAGE HOME. YEAH. IT WAS SEVERAL COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS, I THINK, OR $100. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S. THAT'S ALL I NEED. THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. I WILL EMAIL THAT TO EVERYBODY. OKAY. WE'VE READ THE ORDINANCE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 0.494268 PER $100 VALUATION, [02:00:03] WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 16.6% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE, COMPOSED OF AN OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE RATE OF 0.329235 PER $100 VALUATION, AND AN INTEREST IN SINKING RATE OF 0.165033 PER $100. VALUATION AND LEVY AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAXES WITHIN THE CITY OF LIBERTY HILL FOR THE 2026 TAX YEAR. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION. MOTION MADE BY ELIZABETH BETH BROWN AND SECONDED BY MICHAEL HELBING. WE'RE GOING TO NOW RECORD OUR VOTES. JAQUETTA THAYER I MICHAEL HELBING I DIANE WILLIAMS I ELIZABETH BROWN I LACY SCOTT I TIM HENNESSY I I CHRIS LAMANTIA THE RECORD REFLECTS SEVEN VOTES IN FAVOR AND ZERO VOTES OPPOSED THE MOTION PASSES. WE NOW HAVE A SECOND MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE AN INTEREST IN SINKING RATE OF 0.165033 PER $100. VALUATION AND LEVY AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAXES WITHIN THE CITY OF LIBERTY HILL FOR THE 2026 TAX YEAR. I'LL SECOND MOTIONS MADE BY DIANE WILLIAMS AND SECONDED BY ELIZABETH BROWN. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, WE'LL NOW RECORD OUR VOTES. CHIQUITA THAYER I MICHAEL HELBING I DIANE WILLIAMS I ELIZABETH BROWN I. LACY. SCOTT. AYE. TIM HENNESSEY, A CRYSTAL MANTIA I. THE RECORD REFLECTS SEVEN VOTES IN FAVOR AND ZERO VOTES OPPOSED. THE MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU JOSH. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. ITEM SIX H DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ADJUSTMENTS TO THE 2026 CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULE DURING CITY HOLIDAYS. YES. AND JUST A FOLLOW UP ON THAT LAST ONE. WE WILL GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU IN THE WEEKLY ON FRIDAY. JOSH IS GOING TO BE VACATIONING AND HE NEEDS TO DO THAT. GOOD. OKAY. COUNCIL, THIS IS A REALLY SIMPLE ITEM. WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF SCHEDULING CONFLICTS THAT ARE COMING UP. SO WE'VE JUST PRESENTED AN OPTION FOR MOVING SOME OF THESE DATES. IN NOVEMBER, WE'VE GOT TWO THINGS THAT WE RECOMMEND MOVING. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE DECEMBER 23RD MEETING. SO THIS IS FOR Y'ALL TO THINK ABOUT AND IF YOU WANT TO DO IT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT HAPPEN. IS IT WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 11TH, THE TML CONFERENCE WEEK AS WELL. IT IS THE SAME WEEK AND SO YOU'LL PROBABLY BE TRAVELING THAT DAY. TMLO NOVEMBER 11TH. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BY COUNCIL. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW CAN. WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 23RD. ON WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 21ST BE THE SAME WHEN THERE ARE ONLY TWO DAYS APART? JUST A QUICK QUESTION. MONDAY. OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW IF Y'ALL MEANT TO MOVE IT TO LIKE THE PREVIOUS WEDNESDAY OR IF IT WAS MEANT TO BE MONDAY. OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE 2026 CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING SCHEDULE AS PRESENTED. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER THAYER AND COUNCIL MEMBER HELBING. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR? SEVEN ZERO. MOTION PASSES. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL NOW CONVENE TO OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION. [7) CONVENE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION] I WILL HAVE OUR AMAZING CITY SECRETARY. OH, I'M GOING TO DO IT PURSUANT TO TEXAS CODE SECTION FIVE FIVE, 1.071, CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY. THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL CONVENE AND TO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION TO SEEK THE ADVICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING PENDING AND POTENTIAL LITIGATION. AND THEN ITEM SEVEN B, WHICH IS PURSUANT TO TEXAS CODE SECTION 551 DELIBERATIONS ABOUT REAL PROPERTY. THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL CONVENE INTO CLOSE EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DELIBERATE THE PURCHASE, EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY RELATED TO PROJECT CHANCE, AND WE WILL NOW CONVENE AT 8 P.M.. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL IS NOW BACK IN OPEN SESSION AT 8:14 P.M.. [8) RECONVENE TO REGULAR SESSION] I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF ANY. WE HAVE NO MOTIONS. OKAY. SO WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED AT GUESS WHAT, 08:15 P.M.. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.