[1) CALL TO ORDER AND ESTABLISH QUORUM] [00:00:07] >> I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER BRIDE AT 530 TO P.M. TO W WILL START WITH PRAYER. I'M SORRY, I NEED THE AGENDA. >> STEVE MESSANA. >> TYLER JAMES. >> THANK YOU FOR THE STATE AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY T COME TOGETHER WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY BEFORE US GREAT HELPLESS TO GUIDE US IN OUR DECISIONS AND STAY WITH STAFF A THEY WORK THROUGH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ISSUES OF MAKING OUR CITY RUN. IN YOUR NAME, AMEN. AND NOW WE WILL GO WITH THE PLEDGES. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH I STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. >> TO BE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? >> [INDISCERNIBLE] >> OKAY. WE WILL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY ONCE WE GO INTO THE PUBLIC [3) PUBLIC HEARING] HEARING IF YOU'D LIKE SO WE WIL ENTER A PUBLIC HEARING AT 5:34 P.M. 20 TO 61 CUP CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCI REGARDING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW GAVE HIM GREAT SHE IS IN GENERAL COMMUTES AS REQUIRED BY THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, UDC SECTION 4.09 TABLE FOUR TEST 24 APPROXIMATELY .1 ACRES OF LAND ADDRESSED AS 14745 PART OF AN OUT OF THE SURVEY ABSTRACT NUMBER 448 AND WE WILL PARTICULAR DESCRIBE WILLIAMSON CENTRAL APPRAISAL INDUSTRIAL AR 0 TO TO 627 LIBRA B HILL WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TEXAS. LET'S START WITH THE STAFF REPORT. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSION. THIS REQUEST IS FOR IS A GAME ROOM, IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE C-3 ZONING DISTRICT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO THE SITE ITSELF IS A ABOUT . ITSELF THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOU TODAY IS 580 SQUARE FEET, THIS IS WHERE THE TENANT IS PROPOSIN TO PUT THIS GAME ROOM USE. THE SITE IS C-3 IN THE VENTRAL RETAIL ZONING DISTRICT FREIGHT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES INCLUDE THIRSTY PENGUIN, STORAG KEY, THERE'S ALSO A SENIOR FEMORAL RESIDENTIAL HOME NEARBY AND A PROPOSED PLANNING DEVELOPMENT THAT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSING MULTI FAMILY RIGHT TH PROPERTY LINE. THIS SITE IS ZONED GENERAL COMMERCIAL/RETAIL SOME EXAMPLE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED INCLUDE MEDICAL FACILITIES, OFFICES, HOTELS AND OVERNIGHT ACCOMMODATIONS, RESTAURANTS, BARS, BREWERIES, AND PERSONAL SERVICES AS WELL. THE SITE IS DESIGNATED AS FROM OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP, THE DESIGN IS FROM A BOULEVARD REDEVELOPMENT, PRETTY MUCH THOS TO RECONFIGURE 29 TO BE A BOULEVARD SO THAT IS BRINGING BUILDERS CLOSER TO THE ROAD AND PUTTING PARKING IN THE BACK. WE DON'T FIND ANY CONFLICT WITH THIS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. TO KIND OF DEFINING A GAME ROOM FOR YOU, OUR CODE SPECIFICALLY DEFINES IT AS A PRO PROFIT BUSINESS WITH AN AMUSEMENT REDEMPTION MACHINES OR DEVICES AWARDING A PRIZE OR A THEME OF VALUE DECIDED SOLELY OR PARTIALLY BY TRANSFERRING ITS CONDITIONALLY PERMITTED IN ALL OF THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, I WON AND THEN RI TO DISTRICTS, I ONE WILL BE OUR LIGHT INDUSTRIA IN IT WILL BE OUR GENERAL INDUSTRIAL. THE PLANS PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDE HAS ABOUT 450 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA THAT WAS GOING TO BE USED FOR THE GAMING MACHINES, THEY WERE GOING TO BE [00:05:01] COMPUTER-BASED AND STANDALONE A WELL SO A MIX OF THEM. CURRENTLY THERE ARE NINE PARKIN SPACES IN TOTAL, THAT IS EIGHT STANDARD PARKING SPACES WITH 18 SPACE DISABILITY PARKING. IS GOING TO BE FROM GREENFIELD MIGHT BE REQUIRING 19 SPACES WITH ALL THE EXISTING USES, BUT NO NEW PARKING IS REQUIRED AND ADDING ADDITIONAL SPACES TO MEE THE MINIMUM DEVELOPMENT STANDAR WOULD REQUIRE A LETTER OR A PLAQUE, A SITE PLAN AND BRINGIN THE PROPERTY UP TO CODE. THIS WOULD BE THE ADDITION OF THE PERVIOUS COVER AND BEFORE W EVEN ISSUE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, WE REQUIRE ALL AUTO LIGHTING ON THE SITE BE BROUGHT TO COMPLIANCE. SOME CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IS THE EVENING HOURS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY WILL BE OPERATING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AS PROPOSED I THE LETTER OF INTENT. 10:00 A.M. UNTIL 10:00 P.M., PEAK ACTIVITY WILL BE IN THE AFTERNOON THERE IS THE RESIDENTIAL USES SO THAT FAMILY SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IS ABOUT 60 FEET AWAY. AS WELL AS THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE OF THE LO IN QUESTION AND THE BOUNDARY OF THE PROPOSED MULTIFAMILY. ALSO SOME WORRIES ABOUT THE CAPACITY AND PARKING WITH 60 MACHINES AND ONE CUSTOMER EACH, THEIR MEANT NOT BE ENOUGH SPACE TO SATISFY A LOT OF THE CUSTOMERS COMING THERE AND AGAIN , THE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL IS VERY CLOSE. SO WE FOUND THREE OUT OF SIX FINDINGS THAT WE COULD SUPPORT THE FINDINGS WE COULD NOT SUPPORT INCLUDE THE PROPOSED US OF SITE DEVELOPMENT ARE COMPLETELY COMPATIBLE, WE DID NOT FIND THIS IS TRUE, THE CONDITIONS APPLICABLE ARE MINIMUM NECESSARY TO MINIMIZE POTENTIALLY COMPATIBILITY WITH THE EXISTING PERMITTED USES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. WE DIDN'T REALLY SEE MANY EXAMPLES GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND OR DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS SO W DIDN'T MAKE THIS FINDING. THE PROPOSED USE ALTOGETHER WON'T WON'T BE DETRIMENTAL TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, OR INJURIOUS TO AND THE VICINITY. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL FO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST FREIGHT AGAIN I WANT TO REITERATE THE HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE, WE CANNOT SUPPORT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT VACUUM BEHIND IT, THE IMPACT ON THE RESIDENCE CREATES ISSUES AS WELL AS THOSE COMPATIBILITY ISSUES WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL USES. THE APPLICANT ALSO DID LIST A FEW CONDITIONS WITHIN THE LETTE OF INTENT BUT THAT WAS ONLY PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT CONDITIONS LATER IF YOU'D LIKE. I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND I AM HERE AS WELL. THANK YOU. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? SHE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> I DID. OKAY WE WILL CLOSE THAT PORTION 5:40 P.M. SO OUR GOAL IS TO EVALUATE THE LOCATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE AN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, CORRECT? DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. FOR STARTED OR THE ZONING FOR THIS STARTED BACK IN 2022 INITIALLY THE INTENT WAS TO LIMIT IT TO INDUSTRIAL ONLY. I BELIEVE BACK THEN COUNCIL COUNCIL EXPANDED IT TO BE CONDITIONAL FOR COMMERCIAL ZONING. I COULDN'T FIND MY NOTES ARE MET . BUT IT STEMMED FROM ANOTHER THEME ROOM THAT OPEN IN THAT STRIP CENTER NEXT TO IT. WHEN THAT OPENS, THAT GUIDELINE WERE VERY UNCLEAR IN THE ORDINANCE WAS UPDATED SOMETIME IN 2022 OR 2023. SO I'M JUST SHARING THAT. >> HOB HAVE THE ORDINANCE, WHAT THE DISTANCE FROM THEIR RESIDENCES. YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES, THIS GUY IS CLOSE BY THE. WHAT IS THE ACTUAL DISTANCE? >> WE DON'T HAVE A BUFFER STANDARD COMPARING TO THE VAPE [00:10:04] SHOP WHERE IT'S LIKE 1,000 FEET FROM SENSITIVE AREAS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF BUFFER IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S JUST A GENERAL WORRY ABOUT COMPATIBILITY. >> OKAY. NEVER HAD AN ORDINANCE RAISING OR WHATEVER, BUT I WAS CONCERNE WITH THE PARKING OR THE LACK THERE OF TRADE AND THING WAS CALLED OUT THERE WAS SOME NUMBER , EIGHT SPOTS PLUS AND ADA SPOTS, THAT DISTANCE DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A A LOT EMPHASIS FOR ALL IN THE STRIP. THERE'S THREE OTHER TENANTS. AND THEN THINKING ABOUT WELL, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME MULTIFAMILY UNITS COMING IN AND PEOPLE WOULD SAY OH THIS IS OVERFLOW PARKING, RIGHT? AND WHAT TYPE OF FUTURE IMPLICATIONS DOES THIS THE CITY HAVE TO DEAL WITH NOW THAT YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE PARKING. MAYBE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING FOR US TO SOLVE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE WANT TO PLAN HOW THESE MIXED AREA USES WORK FOR IT THAT'S WHERE MY BRAIN IS AT. THAT'S DEFINITELY PART OF THE DISCUSSION. >> WHAT IS THE LAWFUL OCCUPANCY FOR THIS TYPE? >> I CAN'T REMEMBER THE TOP OF MY HEAD. >> THAT MY ELSE BE DETERMINED B BUILDING OFFICIALS. I CAN GIVE YOU A ROUGH ESTIMATE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE DOING IN OTHER AREAS. >> I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THE OCCUPANCY ITSELF HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE USE IT'S THE OCCUPANCY OF AS DETERMINED BY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THIS I CALCULATION THAT TAKE PLACE SO WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT FOR PURPOSES OF ZONING BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THOSE ONLY WOULD CONFIGURE HOW THEY CAN. >> I'M LOOKING AT THE APARTMENT. >> PARKING ORDINANCE ISN'T DETERMINED BY THE OCCUPANCY. IT TELLS IT WHAT IT WOULD BE UNDER OUR ZONING. SO THEY VIEWED BE REQUIRED SHOULD IT BE APPROVED, IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO IMPROVE THE PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE THE 16 SPACES THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. >> 'S SO IF THEY WERE THEN REQUIRED TO PUT 16 SPACES THAN THERE GOING TO HAVE TO CITE PLATTED AND BRING EVERYTHING UP TO CODE, AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? >> S, SIR. OUR PROPOSAL IT IS A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, BUT SHOULD THE COMMISSION MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL THAT IS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS WE REQUESTED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS CONCERN AROUND SOME OF THE LEGALITIES AROUND HER AND OUR ROLE IS NOT TO MAKE THE DECISION , BUT IT CERTAINLY IMPACTS THE CUP SO I AM INCLINED , BASED ON JUST LOOKING AT VARIOUS THINGS, I'M INCLINED TO READ TONIGHT AS WELL. THE UDC BE RIGHT, JUST THAT MAK A MENTION OF THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THE NEW ONE? >> IT WAS INCLUDED. >> THAT IS THAT YES THAT'S PRETTY COMMON FOR THERE IS A STATE LAW CHANGE THAT TOOK PLACE , I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT YEAR, BUT BASICALLY THE DEFINITION FOR GAMES IS A LITTL BIT MORE VAGUE. BEFORE IT WAS SO THAT IS HOW WE HAVE THINGS THAT LIKE THAT IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS WITHIN THE UNITED STATES. THEY WEREN'T REALLY ALLOWED HERE , BUT THEN THIS SORT OF VAGUE USE THAT WAS AVID INTERPRETED IT AS IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IF YOU WEREN'T RECEIVING MONEY CASH, IF YOU'RE RECEIVING AN ITEM, THEN THAT WA WHAT WE PULL. THESE USES EXIST ALL OVER TEXAS. I'M CONCERNED WITH THE FINDING FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FURTHER NARROWS THAT, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE APPLICATION TO SHOW THAT THERE WASN'T MONEY BEING EXCHANGED. >> FROM THE ZONING STANDPOINT, WE DON'T ENFORCE THE PENAL CODE SO WE WOULD TO ENSURE THEY GO THROUGH THE PROPER PROCESSES WHICH WOULD IN INCLUDE THE COMPTROLLER INDIVIDUALLY AND OBVIOUSLY ALL LAWS THAT GOVERN THE UNITED STATES AND TEXAS ARE STILL VALID AS WELL AS OUR CODES . [00:15:04] >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TAKE STEPS FOR RECOMMENDATION AND DECLINE FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. >> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYES. >> THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT. SORRY. YOU WILL HAVE TO ASK STAFF AFTE THE MEETING. OR SOMEONE CAN STEP OUT WITH YOU . OKAY. [4) CONSENT AGENDA] WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO PULL IT FO FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION WE IMPROVE THE CONSENT. >> I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION. >> ALL IN FAVOR. [5) REGULAR AGENDA] >> AYE. >> WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE REGULAR AGENDA DISCUSSION REGARDING REWRITING. I ASKED FOR THIS ITEM TO BE PLACED ON AFTER MEETING WITH COUNCIL IN ORDER TO DISCUSS WHERE WE ARE SITTING WITH THE UDC, I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME GENERAL INFORMATION FROM STAFF AS TO WHAT HAS BEEN COMPLETED I THIS TIME AND WHAT IT IS YOU AR LOOKING FOR FROM THOSE OF US IN ZONING IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD BUT ALSO FOR US TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. I DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING TO BE PREPARED. >> THESE STATES THAT WE ARE AT CURRENTLY IS THEY PROVIDED [INDISCERNIBLE] NOT JUST PLANNING BUT ALSO PUBLIC WORDS, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY MEETING LAST WEEK. ALL AT A PUBLIC DRAFT WE WILL ISSUE AND PROVIDE TO THE PUBLIC AND THE WEBSITES. ULTIMATELY COME UP WHENEVER THA HAPPENS, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE OPEN HOUSES WITH THE PUBLI AS WELL AS POTENTIALLY ANOTHER DEVELOPER STAKEHOLDER MEETING A WELL. IT WILL BE ROUGHLY DECEMBER OR JANUARY WHENEVER WE REACH OUT T THE COMMISSION TO START COORDINATING WITH YOU ALL FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR COUNCIL. >> SO IT GOES TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE IT GOES TO THE COMMISSION ? >> IS JUST GOING TO BE A PUBLIC DRAFT, IT WON'T BE THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT YOU RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL. IT IS SOMETHING WE GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC AND ONCE WE GET THE FEEDBACK WE WILL INCORPORAT THOSE BACKYARD. WHAT YOU WILL RECEIVE IS THE DOCUMENT THAT WILL ACTUALLY GO TO COUNCIL. YOUR RECOMMENDATION WILL HAVE THE FINAL PIECE BREATHTAKING IS IT BETTER IN THE PROCESS FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE INPUT NOW OR WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE THAT DRAFT ? >> IN MY OPINION I THINK IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THE DRAFT SO EVERYBODY HAS THE FULL PICTURE AND THEY CAN PUT EVERYTHING AND CONTEXT. IT IS INTERESTING TO HAVE ZONIN IN ONE PLACE FOR INSTANCE ENDS SIGNS AND OTHER THINGS IN ANOTHER PLACE BECAUSE THOSE THINGS INFORM EACH OTHER, BUT I THINK HAVING THE PUBLIC DRAFT. AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO LOOK AT THAT SO YOU WILL HAV PLENTY OF TIME TO REVIEW IT. EVEN IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THA WITH PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC, THEN THAT WOULD BE AT THINK A GOOD TIME TO LOOK AT THAT. >> SO THIS DRAFT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT THE SAME TIME IT'S AVAILABLE TO US. I GET THE SENSE FROM THE LAST JOINT MEETING WHICH I APOLOGIZE I HAD TO STEP OUT EARLY, THAT THE FEEDBACK FROM INTERESTED PARTIES HAD WE COULD MAYBE DO A BETTER JOB AS A CITY TO SET ASIDE SOME OF THAT OR GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY, OBVIOUSLY PEOPL HAD QUESTIONS. >> PART OF THIS PROCESS, THERE ARE PHASES OF THIS, SO WE CANNOT , IT IS NOT IN ANYONE'S BEST INTEREST FROM A STANDPOINT FINANCIAL STANDPOINT OR FROM GETTING A PROJECT COMPLETED, LIKE THE CRITICAL PATH STANDPOINT TO WAIT UNTIL ALL THINGS ARE ANSWERED IN MODULE ONE BEFORE YOU MOVE TO MODULE T AND DO THE SAME THING WITH MODULE TOO. THIS PROJECT WOULD TAKE FIVE YEARS. SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WE HURT US BECAUSE THOSE ITEMS THAT THEY BROUGHT UP IN MODULE ONE HAVE [00:20:02] BEEN ADDRESSED BUT THERE ARE ITEMS OF CONCERN AND THEN IN MODULE TWO, ITEMS WERE ALSO THERE BUT ZONING WAS 30 SO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED ON MODULE THREE B IN INCORPORATED INTO THE FINAL DRAFT THAT GOES PUBLIC. ALSO OUR SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS ARE ANOTHER ITEM O TOPIC THAT THAT IMPACTS. FROM THAT STANDPOINT, I WOULD SAY A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED BECAUSE WE BEEN RECEIVING COMMENTS A WHOLE TIME HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN THIS OVERALL DOCUMENT. IS IT EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED? NOT ALWAYS. BUT THERE IS MIDDLE GROUND BEIN SOUGHT IN THOSE DOCUMENTS. SO WE ANTICIPATE WHEN WE BRING THE PUBLIC DRAFT FORWARDS, THAT A LOT OF THOSE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TO ME HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT MIDDLEGROUND LOOKS LIKE AND EVE OUTRIGHT SOME OF IT IS KNOWING WHAT'S BEEN REQUESTED BECAUSE I MADE SENSE FOR THE COMMUNITY. I DO THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE NOTICED WHENEVER THE PUBLIC DRAFT COMES OUT BUT THAT IS BEING WORKED ON. >> THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION . LISTENING TO THE FEEDBACK I MET MAYBE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO BETTER MOVING FORWARD IF WE CAN, BUT IF IT'S ALREADY BEING ADDRESSED THAN PERHAPS THAT'S BEING TAKEN CARE OF. I WAS SURPRISED ABOUT THE ABOUT THE FEEDBACK SAME IS PROBABLY NOT THE TIME IT SHOULD'VE HAPPENED PRIOR TO THE MEETING. JUST TRYING TO PREVENT THAT KIN OF THING AND QUESTIONS, BUT IF IT'S BEING HANDLED. >> IT'S A MASSIVE DOCUMENT IT ADDRESSES A BIG PIECE OF DEVELOPMENT. >> THERE'S TO HUNDRED 31 PAGES. >> THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS CONVERSATIONS THAT NEED TO TAKE PLACE IN SOMETHING I'VE CONTINUED TO TELL COUNCIL IS THAT I'M NOT EVEN, THERE'S NO WAY TO EVEN PROMISE WE WON'T NEED TO BE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS IN THE FIRST YEAR, I'M NOT DOIN MY JOB CORRECTLY IF I'M NOT BRINGING THOSE TO YOUR. WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN, BU THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN WE ARE TAKING THAT FEEDBACK AND ONE OF THE OPEN HOUSES THAT MCKENZIE WAS DISCUSSING IS WHEN WILL BE ARE GOING TO SEND POSTCARDS TO EVER RESIDENT IN THE CITY AND WANTIN TO TALK TO EVERYONE WHO MIGHT UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT THAT MIGH TAKE PLACE TO THEIR PROPERTY. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES ON [INDISCERNIBLE]? >> WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. NOTATE SCHEDULED YET AND I THIN THERE'S MORE COORDINATION THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE. >> I AM UNCLEAR ABOUT THE ROLE BETWEEN I FEEL LIKE I UNDERSTAND , BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THE ROLE BETWEEN THE CONTRACTOR STAFF, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, TO EACH OF THE I'M TOLD IT'S GOING TO PARKS AND REC , SO CAN YOU GIVE US JUST AN UNDERSTANDING OF THAT? >> THE ROLE OF THE CONSULTANT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS. THEY WERE HIRED BY A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT AFTER A REQUEST QUALIFICATIONS. THAT CONTRACT WAS A YEAR AND HALF AGO. MARCH OF 2025. WHICH IN THE AMENDMENT TO THAT THERE WAS ABOUT BROUGHT FORWARD IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY AFTER I GOT HERE WITH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT BEING ADDED TO IT. IT WAS PREVIOUSLY BEING HANDLED BY CITY STAFF WRITE THAT CONSULTANT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING IN THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT WHICH INCLUDES DELIVERING THE MODULAR, IT INCLUDES A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AN INCLUDES THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AN THINGS LIKE THAT. I DON'T HAVE THE SCOPE IN FRONT OF ME SO I CAN'T BE SPECIFIC, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING IN COORDINATION WITH STAFF THE ENTIRE TIME. IF HAD THE SAME PROJECT PRINCE WILL AND PROJECT MANAGERS THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROJECT FREIGHT IN MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN SORT OF AND THE BACKGROUND HAVE ALSO BEEN PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR IT THEY ARE EXTREMELY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THIS PROJECT, THEY'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW THE COMMUNITY. I HAVE REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE LISTENING TO EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING SAID BY OUR COMMUNITY COMMITTED BY THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, AND BY STAFF. THERE AREN'T AN ACTION WITH A. MCKENZIE IS THE PROJECT MANAGER ON THIS PROJECT, SHE IS THE PM ON THIS. FROM A STANDPOINT OF ALL THE PARTS INVOLVED, IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT OF STATE LAW THAT PARKS COMMISSION ARE THAT THE DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION BE PART OF THIS PROCESS. BECAUSE THESE BOARDS ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY IN THEY HAVE SORT OF ROLL OVER THOSE SPECIFIC ORDINANCES, OUR PARKS COMMISSIO CARRIES OUT THAT PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION WHICH IS ROLLED INTO OUR UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, OUR DOWNTOWN [00:25:06] REVITALIZATION COMMITTEE THEY OBVIOUSLY INFORM AND HAVE INTEREST IN DOWNTOWN. THOSE ARE NOT IN STATE LAW, BUT THEY EXIST, WE TAKE THEM TO THOSE BODIES BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE, THEY HAVE THAT ROLE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY IN WE WANT THEIR INPUT. THOSE TWO BOARDS WILL WE WILL TAKE THEM TO THEM FOR A WORKSHO AND FOR DISCUSSION TAILORED CONVERSATIONS ON THEIR COMPONENTS OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THEN THE ONLY BOARD THAT HAS SPOKEN ABOU IN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. IN ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS ALSO NOT SOMETHING THAT IS REQUIRED AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, BUT MOST CITIES DO IT, ESPECIALLY WITH AN OVERHAUL OR A REWRITE. SO THAT COMMITTEE IS USUALLY AD HOC, SOMETIMES IT'S APPOINTED B THE COUNCIL, SOMETIMES IT'S APPOINTED BY A MIX OF PEOPLE. I CANNOT FIRE WHERE THIS WINTER HOW THIS ONE WAS CREATED, BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITY, THEY LIVE IN THE CITY, THEY WORK ON DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT SORT OF COMMITTEE JUST TO GET A SNAPSHOT, EVERYONE HAS AN EXPERIENCE, THEY'VE UTILIZED IT TO DOCUMENT OR THEY SERVE ON TH BOARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO THAT COMMITTEE IS JUST MEANT TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK. IT ALL WORKS TOGETHER, IT'S ALL COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE OVERALL DOCUMENT THAT USHERS THROUGH THAT PUBLIC PROCESS AT THE END. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY O THOSE COMPONENTS? >> I THINK WHERE MY EXPERIENCE WITH ADVISORY COMMITTEES AS THE GET INTO THE NUTS AND BOLTS, BU IT FELT LIKE IN THAT MEETING TH OTHER DAY WAS EACH LEVEL WANTED TO DIG INTO IT, NOT JUST THE ADVISORY, AS THEIR GUIDANCE ON BOB, IS IT EXPECTED, OR IT JUST ENDED DIFFERENT CITIES DIFFEREN PROCESS? >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE JOINT MEETING WITH PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL? I GUESS CAN YOU REPHRASE YOUR QUESTION. TO KEEP MY EXPERIENCE WITH ADVISORY GROUPS IS TYPICALLY THEY ARE THE ONES THAT DIG INTO WHATEVER IT IS THAT'S BEING DRAFTED. THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IN THEN YOU USE THAT RECOMMENDATIO TO MOVE FORWARD. IT FELT AS IF EACH PERSON FELT THE NEED TO DIG INTO EVERY PAGE INDIVIDUALLY. I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS WHAT IS TYPICAL. IS YOUR EXPECTATION OR IS WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IS THAT YOU'R GOING. >> THIS LONG LAUNDRY LIST FROM EVERYBODY? THAT WHAT IT FELT LIKE IN THE MEETING THE OTHER DAY. >> YOU MEAN THAT CITY COUNCIL AND CITY AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS ASKING QUESTIONS. I THINK ANY PUBLIC INPUT IS IMPORTANT, SO I THINK THAT IF THE INDIVIDUAL HAS A CERTAIN LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE WITH A CERTAIN PART OF THE ABC ARE THINGS THAT THEY CARE ABOUT SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD EXPECT AL OF THOSE TO COME UP. IT CERTAINLY DEPENDS ON THE PERSON AND I THINK THERE IS A STANDARD THAT I WOULD SET, I THINK CITY COUNCIL IS OUR POLIC MAKERS AND I LOOK TO THEM TO MAKE POLICY DECISIONS IN THEN YOU SEE THE APPLICATIONS AND ZONING CASES, YOU SEE ALL OF TH DIFFERENT THINGS SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE INTERACTION BETWEEN OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE UNIFIE DEVELOPMENT CODE. >> ANYTHING ELSE YOU WILL WANT TO DISCUSS ON IT OR QUESTIONS? >> NOT AT THIS TIME. >> JUST TO CONFIRM, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT WE WILL HAV A COUPLE OF MONTHS? IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT IN TWO WEEKS LATER, W WILL HAVE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AFTER IT COMES TO US FOR A DECISION. >> YES, THAT IS CORRECT STRAIGH IT WILL POST LIKELY MID-TO-LATE NOVEMBER. I NEED AN EXACT DATE I DON'T HAVE IT OFF AT TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT ONCE IT POST, IT'S ANTICIPATED TO BE POSTED AS A PUBLIC DRAFT FOR OVER A MONTH, BUT WHEN IT COMES BACK FOR WORKSHOPS WITH PLANNING AND ZONING, EXCUSE ME, CITY COUNCIL WITH DIFFERENT BOARDS, IT'S JUS THAT THE COMMENT PERIOD WILL END , IT HAS TO BE AN END TO THE COMMENT PERIOD, WE WILL TAKEN FEEDBACK DURING THAT AND THEN MOVE THE DOCUMENT INTO THE NEXT PHASE WHERE WE ARE GOING THROUGH [00:30:05] , WE WILL TALK THROUGH COMMENTS AND THEN THOSE ARE THE DOCUMENTS THAT START MOVING THROUGH THE ACTUAL PUBLIC PROCESS. >> WHEN IS THIS PLAN FOR AGAIN? PICKY I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT WITH DEVELOPER MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT NEEDING TO BE SCHEDULED. >> THIS COMES OUT POTENTIALLY AROUND THANKSGIVING AND THEN WE CAN SIT ON IT UNTIL AFTER THING GIVING PER. >> I THINK IT'S ANTICIPATED IF IT GOES LIFE THAT WEEK OF THANKSGIVING IT WILL KIND OF CONTINUE THROUGH. >> OKAY, OPEN FOR PROBABLY 30 O 40 DAYS. >> OKAY, SO ANY WORKSHOPS WOULD BE IN JANUARY AFTER POLITICS SEASON, CORRECT. >> IT WOULD BE AFTER HOLIDAY SEASON. I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE YOU CERTAI DATES WITH THERE IS SO MUCH IN FLUX RIGHT NOW. IT WOULD BE AFTER CHRISTMAS. >> DO WE HAVE A TARGETED DATE WHEN IT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE WRAPPED UP? >> WHEN FAR AS WRAPPED UP IT WILL POST FOR THAT DATE I BEEN SAYING. NOT JUST FAR, THAT IS EVERYTHIN UP TO FOUR. >> OKAY. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.